Sub-editors discuss terms, conditions and work
The UkSubs list
Sub-editors are the unsung heroes
of publishing. Without them newspapers
magazines would contain many more silly
mistaeks than the 0.02%
<OK? & sez who?>
The UkSubs mailing list is where sub-editors discuss pay, conditions, and their work.
The list is hosted by London Freelance Branch of the NUJ, and is open to people working as sub-editors in the UK and Ireland.
To join the list, fill
out the form below.
Our apologies about the convoluted prose in the
computer-generated bits of this page.
|Links for list members
| The UkSubs Archives
(The current archive is only available to the list
| To send a message to the
list, email firstname.lastname@example.org
|You can also send messages to the list via
the easier-to-remember address
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|As an experiment, we're providing list members with a list of
other members' email addresses.
|The list stylesheet
UkSubs is a "moderated" email list. This means that messages
are screened by a "moderator" - also called an "administrator" in some of the
computer-generated text below. She or he checks they are
on topic, then distributes them to the list members. And that means they won't show up immediately:
the moderator(s) will try to do their thing at least daily.
The list stylesheet will evolve. To start with, on-topic messages include those about:
- pay and conditions of work for sub-editors
- work opportunities, passing on shifts when you're double-booked, etc
- using software as it relates to sub-editing; tips on Quark, HTML, etc...
- research and fact-checking tips, hints and pleas
Messages will not be distributed which:
- are actionably defamatory, obscene, criminally blasphemous or just too complicated to legal;
- contravene the NUJ's Code of Conduct;
- have degenerated into "flame wars";
- are over 2500 words long; or
- attempt to include anything that's not plain text
The plain-text-only rule serves to keep the time taken to download list messages
to a minimum. It also means that it is impossible (given the state of technical
knowledge and dastardly invention in September 2002) for viruses to propagate
through the list. The program that runs the list also takes all plausible steps
to stop your email address being "harvested" by spam merchants.
|Joining the list
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the moderator's frame of mind.
You will be sent email requesting confirmation, to
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confirmation is received, your request will be held for approval
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list of members is not available to non-members.
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