[diggers350] Re: retrospective planning permission

Simon Fairlie chapter7 at tlio.org.uk
Mon Feb 22 23:05:16 GMT 2010

I agree , it's a problem. We have the same sort of scams here, and of  
course everywhere.. However these are negligible  compared with all  
the high impact developments  that are not only  allowed but actually  
encouraged by the planning system.


On 22 Feb 2010, at 08:56, David Bangs wrote:

> I worry about how the Tory change may affect travellers and some  
> other groups, but welcome further control on much covert not-so-low- 
> impact development. Such developments need to be under proper  
> democratic control.
> There's another side to this issue which is not to do with the  
> strategies of poor people. On my local Downs a farm converted a  
> long barn into homes for sale without planning permission, which it  
> sought - and got - retrospectively. Not so far away a spanking new  
> golf course built its new club house on a site footprint different  
> from that for which they had obtained planning permission. They  
> then obtained it retrospectively.
> I don't think that anyone except the desperate have the right to  
> subvert wider democratic consideration (however inadequate) of  
> their developments, which may impact on areas where public  
> resources (particularly in landscape, biodiversity, cultural  
> heritage) are sensitive and vulnerable,
> Dave Bangs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave S
> To: diggers350 at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [diggers350] Tories planning to make squatting a  
> criminal offence
> On Saturday 20 Feb 2010, Marky B wrote:
> > Squatting under threat...
> > Ref: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/02/446259.html?c=on#c242964
> Anyone got any idea how this...
> "Curtail the ability to apply for retrospective planning  
> permission. This will
> stop the practice of people laying down concrete on weekends or  
> bank holidays
> and then putting in a planning application (currently, planning  
> enforcement
> cannot commence whilst an application is pending).
> [...]
> Our promise to limit the concept of retrospective planning  
> permission will
> also ensure that another route by which the planning system has  
> been abused by
> those seeking to use unauthorised sites will be curtailed."
> ... is likely to affect retrospective planning applications for low- 
> impact
> residential permaculture projects?
> Are those also likely to be targeted? Or are the Tories now  
> "greened up"
> enough (pah!) that they are only likely to target this kind of  
> thing at
> travellers, and will overlook genuine low-impact development?
> Perhaps a silly question really (what with all politicians being  
> self-serving
> bastards anyway), but as someone who will be going the self-build  
> low-impact
> retrospective route in the next year or two, it concerns me greatly.
> (Not that the rest of it doesn't concern me greatly as well, mind!)
> Cheers,
> ~Dave

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