[diggers350] Moy Estate raptor poisoning - police swoop

ilyan ilyan.thomas at virgin.net
Tue Jun 8 22:27:48 BST 2010

Hi David,
I should have defined 'animal' tracks.   A Gamekeeper out to catch 
Raptors would have set it away from animal routes, and would have put 
some sort of bait clearly visible from the air.   Perhaps they would not 
get the real killers that way as those may only take live prey, not 
carrion.   More field studies needed.    I think there was a case of 
hawk in a gin trap about twemty years ago, that might have been set on a 
pole a hawk sometimes used as a perch.
How well grown were the grouse a poacher might have been hoping for.   
any grain around?

On 08/06/2010 00:23, David Bangs wrote:
> Off the track, Ilyan, and amongst heather, but quite close to the big 
> house, too. In high summer and no in-by fields close, if I remember 
> rightly. Amery didn't allow walkers, we were told. Hence the need to 
> keep the estate sweet by not causing trouble when given this rare access,
> Dave Bangs
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* ilyan <mailto:ilyan.thomas at virgin.net>
>     *To:* diggers <mailto:diggers350 at yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:14 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [diggers350] Moy Estate raptor poisoning - police swoop
>     Amory should have been warned.   If he knew staff were doing such
>     he would not allow walkers.    It could have been a poacher.    
>     What was it set to catch?     Was there bait?
>     Was it on an identifiable track?    Was it lambing time in a
>     neighbouring field?  A field studies center should have made
>     useful instruction out of that find  - or was there rabbit stew
>     for dinner?
>     Ilyan
>     On 05/06/2010 14:32, David Bangs wrote:
>>     Perhaps 15 years ago I did a (wonderful)  'Mountain Flowers'
>>     course at Kindrogan Field Study Centre in the Cairngorms. One of
>>     the field trips was to the huge adjacent estate of Julian Amery,
>>     the ex-Tory MP for Brighton (my own constituency). Soon after
>>     entering the estate we came across a set illegal gin trap. I said
>>     "we should report this to the police", but the walk leader said
>>     we should not...because the Field Study Centre was dependant upon
>>     the goodwill of the estate for access for their study trips.
>>     Wrongly, I left the issue at that...
>>     Dave Bangs
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:* Tony Gosling <mailto:tony at cultureshop.org.uk>
>>         *To:* Massimo <mailto:diggers350 at yahoogroups.com>
>>         *Sent:* Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:50 AM
>>         *Subject:* [diggers350] Moy Estate raptor poisoning - police
>>         swoop
>>         much more on this story here
>>         http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?ncl=dJIV5HIigQlOXaMMk5L4NNxbVbHiM
>>         <http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?ncl=dJIV5HIigQlOXaMMk5L4NNxbVbHiM>
>>           *Children tracking red kite trigger huge bird poisoning
>>           raid by police*
>>         http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/7801357/Police-raid-Highland-estate-over-bird-of-prey-deaths.html
>>         <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/7801357/Police-raid-Highland-estate-over-bird-of-prey-deaths.html>http://news.scotsman.com/inverness/Children-tracking--red-kite.6340484.jp
>>         <http://news.scotsman.com/inverness/Children-tracking--red-kite.6340484.jp>*Published
>>         Date: *04 June 2010
>>         By JOHN ROSS
>>         WILDLIFE crime investigators raided a Scottish estate after
>>         schoolchildren monitoring a rare red kite sparked a major
>>         inquiry.
>>         A 45-strong team entered the 25,000-acre Moy Estate, south of
>>         Inverness, yesterday morning following a surveillance
>>         operation lasting several weeks.
>>         A number of poisoned birds of prey, including red kites,
>>         sparrowhawks and merlins, were removed. It was also reportd
>>         that a poisoned grouse carcase had been removed.
>>         One of the recovered red kites had been satellite-tagged and
>>         adopted by children at Carrbridge School who were monitoring
>>         its progress online via the Eyes in the Skies website.
>>         Suspicions arose after the signal from the bird stopped moving.
>>         The joint operation involved 25 officers from Northern
>>         Constabulary as well as investigators from Scottish Natural
>>         Heritage, RSPB Scotland, the Scottish SPCA, Scottish Wildlife
>>         Crime Unit and the Scottish Government's Rural Payments
>>         Inspectorate.
>>         Outside the estate, Chief Inspector Andrew MacLean, the
>>         force's Inverness area commander, said: "This was an
>>         intelligence-led operation into the deaths of protected
>>         birds, including red kites and other birds of prey which have
>>         been found on this estate during the last month and are known
>>         to have been poisoned."
>>         He added: "Wildlife crime is a blight on the environment and
>>         a serious concern to the public.
>>         "Northern Constabulary consider such crime a serious risk to
>>         the safety of the public and have demonstrated today our
>>         intention to rigorously deal with reports of wildlife crime,
>>         in particular the poisoning of wildlife on open ground which
>>         is accessible to the public."
>>         Stuart Housden, director of RSPB Scotland, said: "Serious
>>         crimes against our most spectacular birds and wildlife are
>>         utterly deplorable, and do major harm to our reputation as a
>>         country that values and cares for its wildlife and natural
>>         environment.
>>         "There is a growing body of compelling evidence which
>>         demonstrates the scale and impact that illegal poisoning is
>>         having on the populations of iconic birds of prey such as the
>>         red kite and golden eagle."
>>         A RSPB report in March showed that 27 birds of prey were
>>         killed last year, including golden eagles, buzzards, red
>>         kites and a sea eagle.
>>         Last month three golden eagles, a sparrowhawk and buzzard,
>>         were found dead near Skibo Castle in Sutherland amid fears
>>         they had been poisoned.
>>         More than 200 Scottish landowners have since called for those
>>         involved in the illegal poisoning of birds of prey to face
>>         the "full weight of the law".
>>         No-one at the Moy Estate was available for comment yesterday.
>>         Douglas McAdam, chief executive of the landowners' group, The
>>         Scottish Rural Property and Business Association, said: "We
>>         do not yet know the full facts of this case. We are appalled
>>         none the less at what appears to be yet further illegal
>>         persecution against Scotland's wildlife, but we do need to
>>         await the outcome of the legal process to determine where
>>         guilt lies."
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