[Diggers350] Woodlands.co.uk

david bangs dave.bangs at virgin.net
Mon Feb 14 17:51:30 GMT 2011

Was there some problem with my mailing on this topic ? That's the second one 
I've written lately that hasn't appeared. What limitations does this email 
group have on discussion ? It'd be good to know,
Dave Bangs

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fran Ryan" <Fran at peopleincharge.co.uk>
To: "Ben Mathers" <benjaminmathers at gmail.com>
Cc: <john at permaculture-jb.me.uk>; <Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Diggers350] Woodlands.co.uk

>I have fantasised about setting a national community land trust and
> fund, to buy the woodland for the benefit and use of local communities.
> this would be a way of securing it in the public domain in perpetuity.
> Maybe community bonds could be part of how it could be funded. Sadly I
> don't have the energy or time or expertise to do this.
> But with so much stuff on the verge of being sold off (other bits of
> land such as county farms, school playing fields etc,) all then gone for
> ever it would be great if we could muster some energy to make a
> concerted effort to capture the land for local people for ever.
> Fran Ryan
> Oxfordshire Community Land Trust
> On 10/02/2011 13:12, Ben Mathers wrote:
>> I did get in contact with the folks managing their South Wales
>> properties asking about their attitude to One Planet Development and
>> whether there was anything in their covenant stopping people from living
>> on the land and the woman I contacted definitely said that there wasn't.
>> The only issue she thought would be with the planning department...
>> Wouldn't it be great though if someone could buy these bits of woodland
>> and then split them up and sell them for the £1,800 that was paid, does
>> anyone know of anyone thinking of doing something like this? Even if you
>> were to sell them for £2,800 you'd still be making a whopping £54,000
>> profit for doing nothing! I mean if a trust was set up to do something
>> similar that money could then go into buying some more land and doing
>> likewise, obviously with a strict covenant on the land ensuring low
>> impact principles with areas of common land etc etc. I know this is
>> probably something most people on this email group think about, but
>> really it wouldn't need a very big initial outlay (well not very big for
>> some people at least!). What is stopping people I wonder?
>> Ben
>> On 9 February 2011 10:01, John Boshier <john at permaculture-jb.me.uk
>> <mailto:john at permaculture-jb.me.uk>> wrote:
>>     They may be unpleasant, but they do seem to be open to discussing One
>>     Planet Developments in Wales, See
>> http://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/woodland-economics/one-planet-development-in-wales-a-policy-for-low-impact-sustainable-livin/
>>     . I think the wording has changed a bit, as when I looked on their 
>> site
>>     recently I think they said they would not object to it, and I've 
>> heard
>>     this from another source.
>>     If anyone knows more I would like to know. I'm going to be producing 
>> a
>>     One Planet Development newsletter, and am organising meetings to help
>>     people get started on low-impact development in Wales. You can sign 
>> up
>>     to the newsletter at http://www.eco-hamlets.org.uk/newsletters.php ,
>>     and
>>     I'd welcome any contributions to the newsletter.
>>     John
>>     On 07/02/2011 00:14, offgriduk wrote:
>>      > I see the unpleasant woodlands.co.uk <http://woodlands.co.uk> was
>>     one of the early beneficiaries of the forest sell-off (Sunday Times
>>     6/2/11) - buying 54 acres of glorious wood near Market Rasen.
>>      >
>>      > They paid GBP1800 per acre and will sell for GBP9000, removing
>>     the wood from public access and at the same time preventing the new
>>     owners from doing more than asset-stripping through the restrictive
>>     covenants they add to the sale - such as no living on the site.
>>      >
>>      > I would like to have a go at preventing woodlands.co.uk
>>     <http://woodlands.co.uk> from buying further forests in the current
>>     selloff - if anyone has the necessary info, please send to
>>     nick at off-grid.net <mailto:nick%40off-grid.net> and I can put it
>>     fully in the public domain
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