Want to live in a cage? Choose Land Value Taxation (LVT)

Tony Gosling tony at cultureshop.org.uk
Wed Apr 10 21:35:41 BST 2013


Hi Mike,

The Mail has rightly got some shocking pictures 
here to the public - motivated probably though by 
their 'Johnny Foreigner' glee, as you suggest.
But the article mentions nothing about the 
likelihood of Land Value Tax being behind this 
incentive to stack 'em up & cram as many people 
as possible into the smallest area of ground.
They simply cite 'house prices'.
It's me pointing out that Kowloon is one of the 
few places the 'much trumpeted by some' LVT is in force.

As a fundamental principle only luxuries should 
be taxed, basic essentials of life, such as land, should never be.

T

At 12:40 10/04/2013, you wrote:


>Interesting piece, which definitely needs to be 
>read through a "daily mail preconceptions" filter.
>
>I don't see anything here though to suggest that 
>the tax regime is contributing to the high 
>population density, or the high property prices 
>("fuelled by easy credit" as well as high 
>demand), or the alleged low quality of public 
>housing, only the extreme low end of which is 
>actually described here. Am I missing something?
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>On 09/04/2013 23:19, Tony Gosling wrote:
>>Hong Kong and Kowloon have a hybrid form of LVT 
>>called 'Government Rent' levied on all 
>>landowners, 
>>http://www.landsd.gov.hk/en/gov_rent/rent1.htm 
>>hence the tendency to 'cram 'em in'.
>>
>>Where home is a metal cage: How tens of 
>>thousands of Hong Kong's poorest are forced to 
>>live in 6ft by 2ft rabbit hutches
>>Leung Cho-yin, 67, pays £105 a month for a cage in dilapidated apartment
>>210,000 people are on waiting list for public housing, double from 2006
>>Leung and his elderly roommates wash their clothes in a bucket
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275206/Hong-Kongs-metal-cage-homes-How-tens-thousands-live-6ft-2ft-rabbit-hutches.html 
>>
>>(click the link for lots more pix)
>>By Nick Enoch - PUBLISHED: 22:05, 7 February 
>>2013 | UPDATED: 16:02, 8 February 2013
>>For many of the richest people in Hong Kong, 
>>one of Asia's wealthiest cities, home is a 
>>mansion with an expansive view from the heights of Victoria Peak.
>>For some of the poorest, like Leung Cho-yin, home is a metal cage.
>>The 67-year-old former butcher pays 1,300 Hong 
>>Kong dollars (£105) a month for one of about a 
>>dozen wire mesh cages resembling rabbit hutches 
>>crammed into a dilapidated apartment in a 
>>gritty, working-class West Kowloon neighborhood.
>>Home to tens of thousands, such cages - stacked 
>>on top of each other - measure 6ft by 2.5ft.
>>
>>Emacs!
>>
>>Cheng Man Wai, 62, lies in the cage, measuring 
>>16sq ft, which he calls home in Hong Kong
>>
>>To keep bedbugs away, Leung and his roommates 
>>put thin pads, bamboo mats, even old linoleum 
>>on their cages' wooden planks instead of mattresses.
>>'I've been bitten so much I'm used to it,' said 
>>Leung, rolling up the sleeve of his oversized 
>>blue fleece jacket to reveal a red mark on his hand.
>>'There's nothing you can do about it. I've got 
>>to live here. I've got to survive,' he said as he let out a phlegmy cough.
>>Some 100,000 people in the former British 
>>colony live in what's known as inadequate 
>>housing, according to the Society for Community 
>>Organization, a social welfare group.
>>The category also includes apartments 
>>subdivided into tiny cubicles or filled with 
>>coffin-sized wood and metal sleeping compartments as well as rooftop shacks.
>>They're a grim counterpoint to the southern 
>>Chinese city's renowned material affluence.
>>Forced by skyrocketing housing prices to live 
>>in cramped, dirty and unsafe conditions, their 
>>plight also highlights one of the biggest 
>>headaches facing Hong Kong's unpopular 
>>Beijing-backed leader: growing public rage over the city's housing crisis.
>>Leung Chun-ying took office as Hong Kong's 
>>chief executive in July pledging to provide 
>>more affordable housing in a bid to cool the anger.
>>Home prices rose 23 per cent in the first 10 
>>months of 2012 and have doubled since bottoming 
>>out in 2008 during the global financial crisis, 
>>the International Monetary Fund said in a 
>>report last month. Rents have followed a similar trajectory.
>>The soaring costs are putting decent homes out 
>>of reach of a large portion of the population 
>>while stoking resentment of the government, 
>>which controls all land for development, and a 
>>coterie of wealthy property developers.
>>Housing costs have been fuelled by easy credit 
>>thanks to ultralow interest rates that 
>>policymakers can't raise because the currency 
>>is pegged to the dollar. Money flooding in from 
>>mainland Chinese and foreign investors looking 
>>for higher returns has exacerbated the rise.
>>In his inaugural policy speech in January, the 
>>chief executive said the inability of the 
>>middle class to buy homes posed a threat to 
>>social stability and promised to make it a 
>>priority to tackle the housing shortage.
>>'Many families have to move into smaller or 
>>older flats, or even factory buildings,' he said.
>>'Cramped living space in cage homes, cubicle 
>>apartments and sub-divided flats has become the 
>>reluctant choice for tens of thousands of Hong 
>>Kong people,' he added, as he unveiled plans to 
>>boost supply of public housing in the medium 
>>term from its current level of 15,000 apartments a year.
>>His comments mark a distinct shift from 
>>predecessor Donald Tsang, who ignored the problem.
>>Legislators and activists, however, slammed 
>>Leung for a lack of measures to boost the 
>>supply in the short term. Some 210,000 people 
>>are on the waiting list for public housing, about double from 2006.
>>About a third of Hong Kong's 7.1 million 
>>population lives in public rental flats. When 
>>apartments bought with government subsidies are 
>>included, the figure rises to nearly half.
>>Anger over housing prices is a common theme in 
>>increasingly frequent anti-government protests.
>>Legislator Frederick Fung warns there will be 
>>more if the problem can't be solved. He 
>>compared the effect on the poor to a lab experiment.
>>'When we were in secondary school, we had some 
>>sort of experiment where we put many rats in a 
>>small box. They would bite each other,' said Fung.
>>'When living spaces are so congested, they 
>>would make people feel uneasy, desperate,' and 
>>angry at the government, he said.
>>Leung, the cage dweller, had little faith that 
>>the government could do anything to change the situation of people like him.
>>'There's too little space here. We can barely breathe' - Lee Tat-fong, 63
>>'It's not whether I believe him or not, but 
>>they always talk this way. What hope is there?' 
>>said Leung, who has been living in cage homes 
>>since he stopped working at a market stall 
>>after losing part of a finger 20 years ago.
>>With just a Grade 7 education, he was only able 
>>to find intermittent casual work.
>>He hasn't applied for public housing because he 
>>doesn't want to leave his roommates to live 
>>alone and expects to spend the rest of his life living in a cage.
>>His only income is HK$4,000 (£330) in 
>>government assistance each month. After paying 
>>his rent, he's left with $2,700 (£220), or about HK$90 (£7.40) a day.
>>'It's impossible for me to save,' said Leung, 
>>who never married and has no children to lean on for support.
>>Leung and his roommates, all of them single, 
>>elderly men, wash their clothes in a bucket. 
>>The bathroom facilities consist of two toilet 
>>stalls, one of them adjoining a squat toilet that doubles as a shower stall.
>>There is no kitchen, just a small room with a 
>>sink. The hallway walls have turned brown with 
>>dirt accumulated over the years.
>>While cage homes, which sprang up in the 1950s 
>>to cater mostly to single men coming in from 
>>mainland China, are becoming rarer, other types 
>>of substandard housing such as cubicle 
>>apartments are growing as more families are pushed into poverty.
>>Nearly 1.19 million people were living in 
>>poverty in the first half of last year, up from 
>>1.15 million in 2011, according to the Hong Kong Council Of Social Services
>>There's no official poverty line but it's 
>>generally defined as half of the city's median 
>>income of HK$12,000 (£985) a month.
>>Many poor residents have applied for public 
>>housing but face years of waiting. Nearly 
>>three-quarters of 500 low-income families 
>>questioned by Oxfam Hong Kong in a recent 
>>survey had been on the list for more than four 
>>years without being offered a flat.
>>Lee Tat-fong is one of those waiting. The 
>>63-year-old is hoping she and her two 
>>grandchildren can get out of the cubicle 
>>apartment they share in their Wan Chai 
>>neighborhood, but she has no idea how long it will take.
>>Lee, who suffers from diabetes and back 
>>problems, takes care of Amy, nine, and Steven, 
>>13, because their father has disappeared and 
>>their mother - her daughter - can't get a 
>>permit to come to Hong Kong from mainland 
>>China. An uncle occasionally lends a hand.
>>The three live in a 50sq ft room, one of seven 
>>created by subdividing an existing apartment.
>>A bunk bed takes up half the space, a cabinet 
>>most of the rest, leaving barely enough room to 
>>stand up in. The room is jammed with their 
>>possessions: plastic bags filled with clothes, 
>>an electric fan, Amy's stuffed animals, cooking utensils.
>>'There's too little space here. We can barely 
>>breathe,' said Lee, who shares the bottom bunk with her grandson.
>>They share the communal kitchen and two toilets 
>>with the other residents. Welfare pays their 
>>HK$3,500 (£285) monthly rent and the three get 
>>another HK$6,000 (£490) for living expenses but 
>>the money is never enough, especially with two growing children to feed.
>>Lee said the two often wanted to have 
>>McDonald's because they were still hungry after 
>>dinner, which on a recent night was meagre 
>>portions of rice, vegetables and meat.
>>The struggle to raise her two grandchildren in 
>>such conditions was wearing her out.
>>'It's exhausting,' she said. 'Sometimes I get 
>>so pent up with anger, and I cry but no one sees because I hide away.'
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275206/Hong-Kongs-metal-cage-homes-How-tens-thousands-live-6ft-2ft-rabbit-hutches.html 
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