Is Prince Charles' 'Heart In The Right Place'?
b_m_boal at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 22 22:33:04 BST 2013
It is a mistake to hate individual royals rather than the system for which accident of birth has selected them. The personal qualities of Prince Charles are not the issue, rather, we should concern ourselves with the rotten edifice of privilege and exclusion that underpins the mal-distribution wealth and power. It is the power behind the throne that creates and sustains this situation, therefore, to pour bile on hapless public royals is not only small-minded, it misses the point.
For what it's worth, I have spoken with more than one person who has had direct contact with him and they tend to confirm the impression that he is at least the best of a bad bunch. In an ideal word we would confiscate all stolen wealth and redistribute title to land in fair sized portions to as many people as could get a decent living from it. We could then invest sovereignty in truly democratic institutions, and as a private citizen in a democracy, Charles Windsor could do as he pleases, say whatever he liked to whoever would listen, and marry whoever he wanted to.
From: Linda Beamish <linda.beamish at yahoo.com>
To: Zardoz <tony at cultureshop.org.uk>; "Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com" <Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013, 15:00
Subject: Re: [Diggers350] Re: Is Prince Charles' 'Heart In The Right Place'?
It's all PR really isn't it - if he can 'pull the wool' over people's eyes he will, (although personally, I don't imagine he has much say in the matter, like so many people with their best-socked feet in their nice shiny brogues, someone somewhere else is really pulling their strings).
I agree with Tony, I don't think Charles has a 'Hippy Heart' at all - if he had, he wouldn't get so upset when his toothbrush was facing the 'wrong' direction! (And I don't think much of the prince's Mayday Network either.)
I'm afraid that I stick by what I said in a (fairly) heated debate in the 1970s held with a Royalist who stated that the Royal family did a lot of good work - and bought a lot of revenue into the UK through tourism. (I'm afraid that I said that they could do just the same without costing us so much revenue if they were on display somewhere - I.E. London Zoo or Madame Tussauds.)
Taxing the peasants to pay for the rich really should have died a death with the dinosaurs - especially after the UK adopted Agenda 21 - which, while not perfect to some people's view (I know), went a long way to (try to) protect the rights of us poor rural folk.
As TG said, if the Queen were to give back the land which her ancestors stole from everyone over the centuries - there wouldn't be any child poverty in the world anyway (or at least there would be a lot less poverty and child poverty than there is right now).
God help us all when solar winter befalls us (all) - especially all of us who own nothing at all!
One person can't own a planet - or even half a planet or a huge percentage of a planet - it should be against the law.
If there isn't a ceiling - there isn't a floor!
In order to create a level playing field - we cannot have a finances which go from top to bottom without any stops at either end - we need to level it and create ethical banding/s. (As Avril Fox - author of Green Design says in her autobiography 'The Long Road to Realism', we have to cap incomes - in order to create an ethical and vibrant 'Green Economy'.)
If Charles had a hippy heart - he'd pass over his wealth to his community (globally) - and make peace, not war.
From: Zardoz <tony at cultureshop.org.uk>
To: Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:22 PM
Subject: [Diggers350] Re: Is Prince Charles' 'Heart In The Right Place'?
The Duchy has no hippy heart and he runs it.
Don't you think the hippy stuff is something of a cover?
All the top super rich impoverisher sociopaths do this PR.
Charles has a massive PR operation costing around Â£500k anually, both proactive visiting Dr Who sets etc etc and a small army of lawyers to detect negative stories before they emerge and issue legal threats to stop publication.
Here's just one old article illustrating this
Hard up, Charles? Who do you think you're kidding?
I suppose the point of this is to get a good review in The Land of Charles' Harmony book, his 'vision for Britain'.
Poundbury in a small way sums it up. So why not a genuine C21 ecovillage such as the Ecoville 2000 project Roger Kelly from CAT and Richard St George from Schumacher Society designed? Giving the residents genuine freedom and autonomy. A real vision for the future.
This could be Britain's gift to the world if Charles were a real libertarian in any way - which I believe he isn't. His is a fake eco vision which totally sells out to the same money system which is destroying society and the planet.
--- In Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com, Simon Fairlie <chapter7 at ...> wrote:
> I'd be prepared to defend Prince Charles' basically hippy heart, to
> an extent , but not the Duchy.
> On 21 Jun 2013, at 23:31, Zardoz wrote:
> > Happy solstice all who were and were not at Avebury.
> > Steward of many of our hopes for land justice and editor of 'The
> > Land' Simon has said here the Prince Of Wales's 'heart is in the
> > right place'?
> > Well maybe he's a charming man, I've never met him, but haven't yet
> > seen a review on Charles' book 'Harmony', a vision for Britain in
> > the mag. Might be interesting?
> > Tony
> > New questions over relationship between Prince Charles and Waitrose
> > http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/New-questions-relationship-Prince-
> > Charles/story-19339931-detail/story.html
> > Thursday, June 20, 2013 - West Briton - By Miles Davis, West Briton
> > NEW QUESTIONS have been raised over the relationship between the
> > Prince of Wales and Waitrose and a property deal that would
> > transform the east of Truro.
> > It has emerged that Prince Charles paid more than Â£38 million for a
> > depot in Milton Keynes used by the chain. The Duchy of Cornwall,
> > which represents the Prince's business interests, is a key player
> > in the Truro Eastern District Centre (TEDC) project that would see
> > a Waitrose built along with a park and ride, 110 homes and a
> > recycling centre at the junction of Union Hill and Newquay Road.
> > A spokesman for the Prince dismissed any presumed connection
> > between the duchy and Waitrose as "coincidence".
> > The deal for the duchy to buy the 396,000sq ft warehouse at Milton
> > Keynes was completed 18 months ago at a cost of Â£38,385,500, as
> > reported by the Independent newspaper.
> > Waitrose leases it as a lorry distribution hub.
> > Plans for the controversial TEDC were approved by Cornwall Council
> > in March 2012 but that planning consent now faces a judicial review
> > brought by Truro City Council.
> > Councillor Rob Nolan, member of Truro City Council and Cornwall
> > Council, said: "The city council is keen to maintain the vibrancy
> > of the high street in Truro and would welcome Waitrose into the
> > city centre.
> > "But we consider an out-of-town shopping centre to be a threat to
> > that vibrancy.
> > "I'm surprised to see this strong link. It appears that the duchy
> > and Waitrose are putting their own interests before those of Truro."
> > The duchy's financial dealings are expected to come under closer
> > scrutiny from the Commons Public Accounts Committee and a Private
> > Members' Bill in the House of Lords demanding an overhaul of its
> > structure and the distribution of surplus income to the people of
> > Cornwall.
> > Prince Charles's income in 2012 was Â£20.48 million, with Â£18.28
> > million coming from the Duchy of Cornwall and Â£2.19 million from
> > government departments and grants-in-aid.
> > In all the Duchy of Cornwall owns some 131,000 acres of land in 23
> > counties, including large swathes of Cornwall, Dartmoor and the
> > Prince's Gloucestershire home of Highgrove.
> > A spokesman said of the Waitrose depot: "The property acquired was
> > a commercial property investment and it is not related to Duchy
> > Originals. It is a coincidence that Waitrose is the tenant."
> > Revealed: Prince Charles's secret property deals - including Â£38
> > million industrial carbuncle
> > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/revealed-prince-
> > charless-secret-property-deals--including-38-million-industrial-
> > carbuncle-8659596.html
> > BBC fails in bid to have critical clip removed from YouTube
> > following copyright complaint
> > http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bbc-fails-bid-have-critical-clip-
> > removed-youtube-following-copyright-complaint
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