[Diggers350] Somerset levels - don't care what locals say?
Tony Gosling
tony at cultureshop.org.uk
Sat Feb 8 23:19:43 GMT 2014
>From: Chris Baulman <landrights4all at gmail.com>
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>Quite right Tony. LVT also leads to
>gentrification & leaves the poor dependent on
>its trickle down "benefits" rather than
>recognising & securing their land rights.
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>On 07/02/2014 11:45 PM, "Tony Gosling"
><<mailto:tony at cultureshop.org.uk>tony at cultureshop.org.uk> wrote:
>how very wrong Peter
>Land tax just binds humanity further into the
>cult of money and the crooks now in charge of the tax spend
>Read a bit of WInstanley and learn from him, not me.
>T
>
>At 14:08 05/02/2014, you wrote:
>>A tax on all land values and then redistribute
>>to all is the most efficient way to make land a
>>common treasury for all and belong to us all.
>>In the true spirit of the diggers.
>>
>>Our earth is too precious not to tax its use
>>
>>I do not really care what a bunch of locals
>>would say in a public meeting, as its just a
>>gut reaction to their self-interest, most
>>people only ague from a point of self-interest
>>and frame the debate as such it does not mean
>>they are correct. My views are to support
>>mankind and our future generation and have some places for wildlife.
>>
>>Nothing wrong with using logic and science to
>>understand and solve our problems. You need to
>>do a bit more digging to understand
>>economics, fluvial geomorphology and the
>>benefits of having your belief systems challenged now and again.
>>Peter Smith
>>Chief Executive
>>Wildwood Trust
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>>From: Tony Gosling [ mailto:tony at cultureshop.org.uk]
>>Sent: 05 February 2014 13:12
>>To: Peter Smith, Wildwood Trust
>>Subject: RE: [Diggers350] Somerset levels - monks that dug them
>>
>>Tks,
>>
>>Oh dear LVT too is hopeless Tax is for luxuries which land isn't.
>>
>>Flooding of levels even RSPB don't agree
>>You, I repeat Peter, would not last five
>>minutes at a public meeting down there, all words.
>>Good radio debate to be had though if you're up for it.
>>Too much of the anti dredging brigade see
>>animals as just as important as humans - very
>>new age - probably just like wife murdering Prince Charles.
>>
>>T
>>At 12:37 05/02/2014, you wrote:
>>
>>Our Annual review attached and go the Charity
>>Commission website and type our name in to get
>>all the info you need
>><http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/find-charities/>http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/find-charities/
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>>Our money comes mostly comes from individual
>>Membership subscription, entrance fees,
>>training courses and education fees, donations,
>>Ecological consultancy services, grant making
>>trusts, trading (shop & café) and the odd legacy.
>>
>>I do lectures on charitable funding to
>>postgraduate conservation students at a few
>>university departments find that
>>presentation attached. One of my areas of
>>interest is charitable funding (As well as my
>>Ecological qualifications I studied for an MA
>>in Marketing & and MBA with focus on charitable fundraising)
>>
>>I hope that answers your question. But as to
>>dredging it is not the full solution - and
>>the levels needs (in some part) to be returned
>>to wetland and the upper catchment that drains
>>into the levels needs less (state sponsored)
>>farming and more wilderness and extensive
>>farming to slow down flows and retain water for longer periods.
>>
>>Land Value Tax is the perfect way to achieve
>>the diggers objectives as it allows for us to
>>all share in the common treasury of land and
>>natural resources and will promote the break-up
>>of uneconomic landed estates that will offer
>>opportunities to many for low impacts
>>smallholding and wildlife, while still allowing
>>for economic productivity, more jobs etc. It
>>will also promote the lands ability to hold
>>water and get people off land that is prone to
>>flooding or is below the economic margin to be
>>farmed. Land below the economic margin of
>>production needs to be rewilded and this is
>>where keystone animals like beavers and wild
>>horse come in to help create diverse habitats,
>>structural diversity and maximise biodiversity.
>>
>>Any gemophologist and/or hydrologist will tell
>>you that dredging is not the answer or read
>>the EA presentation, attached, on dredging
>>attached with some nice graphs to help you understand the issues involved.
>>
>>All the best
>>Peter Smith
>>Chief Executive
>>Wildwood Trust
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>>Somerset floods: this is a man-made disaster
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>>Somerset apple farmer Julian Temperley is one
>>of the thousands whose homes and livelihoods have been damaged by the deluge
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>>Somerset floods: this is a man-made disaster
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>>Submerged: Julian Temperley at his flooded family home Photo: Jay Williams
>>By <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/anna-tyzack/>Anna Tyzack
>>12:43PM GMT 30 Jan 2014
>>Floods here on the Somerset Levels are normally
>>really good fun. The sun comes out and we go
>>sailing over our fields and my eldest daughter
>>Alice [Temperley, the designer] will take some
>>pictures of a girl in a canoe wearing one of
>>her dresses. We happen to run our business,
>><http://www.ciderbrandy.co.uk/>The Somerset
>>Cider Brandy company, in a part of Somerset
>>that is low lying, so were prepared for
>>flooding. The water arrives, then quickly
>>disappears and no damage is done because we
>>have systems in place to control it. But there
>>is nothing fun about this current flood, which
>>came on New Years Day and has stuck around ever since.
>>The Environment Agency has been widely reported
>>as saying its a freak occurrence. Not a
>>chance. This is a man-made ecological disaster.
>>The River Parrett, which runs through the
>>Levels, is blocked and badly needs dredging.
>>Im not sure people realise that this is not
>>just a theory being discussed in the papers,
>>its a fact. Its what is actually happening.
>>The river at Bridgwater is 10ft below its
>>banks, while five miles upstream it is overflowing.
>>If I dont dig out the ditches on my land all
>>hell breaks loose. I lose my single farm
>>payment and receive a fine. But the Environment
>>Agency wont dig out its blasted river and so
>>my ditches have nowhere to drain. As a result
>>we have 50 acres of land under six feet of
>>water it would take more than 30 years for it
>>to evaporate naturally. Thankfully Ive managed
>>to salvage most of the cider and cider brandy
>>in our barns but Ive lost some of my orchards
>>and in Thorney House, our family home where my
>>98-year-old father lives, the flood water comes
>>half way up my wellies. A few weeks ago it was
>>covering the furniture. My father, who is
>>deeply upset about the situation, is staying
>>with my aunt in Worcestershire while we rent
>>him a house. Its a big upheaval for a man of his age.
>>Of course its not just my family that has been
>>affected. About 20,000 acres of farmland in
>>Somerset have been underwater for a month now.
>>Im sure youve seen the pictures. The ancient
>>village of Muchelney is totally cut off; you
>>can only get there by boat, and Thorney, where
>>my father lives, has been evacuated. The
>>reality is horrific: tractors and cars have
>>been submerged; animals drowned, and the locals are in despair.
>>An oak furniture maker near Bridgwater has lost
>>more than £1million of furniture, while the
>>potter John Leach, 75, whose grandfather
>>Bernard Leach established Muchelney Pottery, a
>>family dynasty, has had to lay off his five
>>employees; unless they were prepared to swim,
>>there was no way they could get to their
>>workshops. Hes in a deep depression and I
>>think wed lose him from the area altogether if
>>he could sell his house. But of course its
>>filled with water, so thats not going to happen.
>>So why hasnt the Environment Agency dredged
>>the river? It used to be done every five years;
>>even more than that in the areas where silt
>>builds up more quickly. But for the past 20
>>years the Environment Agency has refused to
>>dredge a process that would have cost them
>>about £4million arguing that it is
>>anti-environmental and causes as many problems
>>as it solves (which defies common sense).
>>Instead, £31million has been spent on creating
>>a spurious wildlife reserve to protect the
>>beetles in the river banks which, by the way,
>>are very close relations of cockroaches. To
>>think national treasures such as Leach are
>>considered of less importance than some dubious beetles!
>>This reluctance to dredge is about as
>>ridiculous as me telling MPs in London to take
>>down the Thames Barrier, pull down the
>>Embankment, and let the Thames flood Soho as it
>>pleases. The Somerset Levels, just like London,
>>are a man-made environment; the River Parrett
>>was not put where it is by God but by man.
>>Taunton and Yeovil are two of the
>>fastest-growing towns in England and theyre
>>putting more pressure than ever on the Parrett,
>>a slow flowing, naturally silty river. My
>>great-great-great-grandfather used to bring
>>coal barges up it from Wales; you couldnt do
>>that trip in a canoe, now the bottom of the river is so high with silt
>>We need to dredge 15 miles from the mouth of
>>the river up to Thorney, as has been done in
>>some shape or form for the past 500 years to
>>safeguard communities from this kind of
>>flooding. Not even the Second World War got in
>>the way of it we put Italian POWs on the job.
>>When the Somerset Levels flooded last year
>>and water poured in to my fathers house for
>>the first time since 1926 the Government
>>declared it a once-in-a-lifetime event. Now
>>its happened again, theyve conceded that
>>some dredging might be done but only after
>>theyve carried out studies. This week the
>>chair of the Environment Agency Lord Smith told
>>BBC Radio 4s
>><http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qj9z>Today
>>programme: Dredging would probably make a
>>small difference, but its not the
>>comprehensive answer that some people claim.
>>The fact they think they need to research the
>>situation shows how stupid they are. River
>>dredging happens all over the world all the
>>time. If they need someone to tell them whether
>>water flows up hill or down hill, they should
>>ask a local farmer or call in the army to sort
>>out the situation thats what happened in the foot-and-mouth crisis of 2001.
>>Were going to be flooded here in Somerset for
>>at least another five weeks. The longer the
>>water lingers over the Levels, the greater the
>>ecological disaster. If the weather was 10
>>degrees colder, the flora and fauna beneath it
>>would be protected but as it is the grass and
>>trees are dying and everything is starting to smell.
>>Theres also the economic damage to consider.
>>In both the villages of Thorney and Muchelney
>>theres at least £1million damage, and about
>>£50million across the whole area. Once Thorney
>>House has dried which will take weeks it
>>will need to be cleaned, replastered, rewired
>>and replumbed, every appliance replaced and the
>>furniture repaired. Last year we also had to
>>replace all the old wooden floors with tiles;
>>the whole job cost £70,000. This year the
>>damage is three times as bad and the insurance
>>companies, most of which were so accommodating
>>last year, arent going to take kindly to renewing our policies now.
>>Over the past couple of weeks Ive started
>>receiving emails from my neighbours asking when
>>the church services take place in Muchelney.
>>Theyre all going to church now; they think
>>Gods got something to do with all this water.
>>But this is quite clearly a man-made problem.
>>Yes, its been wet but we are, after all, in
>>the middle of winter. There has been no
>>cloudburst or crazy storm. The only thing God
>>can be blamed for is not giving the Environment Agency any brains.
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