From hrcoord at igc.apc.org Mon Feb 1 02:34:07 1993 From: hrcoord at igc.apc.org (hrcoord at igc.apc.org) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 18:34:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: IMPORTANT**Renaming Proposal References: Message-ID: Yes, Indra, reg. does mean regional.....so if you are comfortable with gen.kurds I believe that name would fall into the new naming conventions and would tell all that it is a conf all about information on the Kurds. Hugs, Debra From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Sat Feb 13 01:08:17 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 17:08:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: IMPORTANT**Renaming Proposal References: Message-ID: From: Subject: IMPORTANT**Renaming Proposal /* Written 4:59 pm Feb 12, 1993 by pnmideast at igc.apc.org in igc:mideast.action */ /* ---------- "IMPORTANT: CONF RENAMING UPDATE" ---------- */ Please see the conference for an important update on the APC Conference Renaming Proposal, under the topic "IMPORTANT**Renaming Proposal." Included is a proposal for a Middle East News conference. Your feedback is very important here. Jennifer Smith middle east facilitator, peacenet pnmideast From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Mon Feb 1 05:35:29 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 21:35:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: IPS: Refugees... Message-ID: From: Subject: IPS: Refugees... /* Written 12:10 am Jan 31, 1993 by newsdesk at igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */ /* ---------- "REFUGEES: Police seek Russian base " ---------- */ Copyright Inter Press Service 1993, all rights reserved. Permission to re- print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'. Title: REFUGEES: Police seek Russian base to curb tide of boat people stockholm, jan 27 (ips/greg mcivor) -- swedish police are seeking to establish bases in russia in a bid to curb the rising number of illegal refugees arriving from the east. national police chief bjorn ericksson urged the russian authorities wednesday to permit swedish detectives to be stationed in moscow and st petersburg as part of a crack down on a wave of ''boat people'' arriving by sea via the baltic states. almost 600 mainly kurdish and iraqi asylum-seekers have landed on the swedish coast in five separate boat loads since september. in one incident last week 391 asylum seekers were discovered by locals on the island of gotland after a seven-day voyage from the latvian capital, riga, in a 30-metre fishing boat. conditions on board the vessel were so bad that 26 passengers needed hospital treatment. in the most recent incident on sunday, 80 kurdish asylum seekers had to be rescued from a russian boat in storm conditions off the swedish coast. police believe the rapidly growing trade is masterminded by a russian mafia operating in the major cities who lure refugees with promises of work visas and a new life in scandinavia. they then arrange for them to be smuggled to baltic ports in estonia and latvia. the swedish branch of the red cross estimates that there are ''hundreds'' of asylum seekers currently in russia trying to earn enough money to pay for an onward passage. regarded as a burden by the russian authorities, they are attracted by sweden's reputation as a liberal haven for refugees. many sacrifice their life savings to pay the market rate of 2,500 dollars for the trip. for the organisers, the financial inducement is enormous: the two most recent voyages would have yielded well over one million dollars. ''this is a very serious situation,'' police chief eriksson said. ''when you look at the the future and see how this trade could grow it is very worrying.'' he said vital intelligence could be gained if swedish police were stationed in moscow and st. petersburg. ''we think this is the best way for us to tackle the problem.'' swedish police recently began helping to train their estonian counterparts in anti-smuggling techniques and eriksson hopes that similar links can be established in the other baltic states and russia.(more/ips) refugees: police seek russian base to curb tide of boat people(2-e) it is an open secret that a major centre for the trade in refugees is an underground railway station beneath the mcdonalds restaurant in moscow. privately, swedish officials are frustrated at the russian police's apparent inability to tackle the problem. in the wake of the latest arrivals. stockholm has promised tougher action against boat crews found in breach of immigration law. at present, courts can fine the culprits or impose prison sentences of up to six months but have no power to seize boats. in practice, the fines are often waived and the crews deported. prison terms are a poor deterrent -- the wages given to inmates guarantee a handsome lump sum for a russian returning home. ''we will examine ways of increasing the penalties on those who bring the refugees across,'' said christer hallerby, of sweden's immigration ministry, adding that boats might in future be confiscated. he said the government would also increase pressure on russia and the baltic states to sign the geneva convention on refugees. this would allow the sweden to send back asylum seekers arriving by sea. under the convention, refugees must apply for asylum in the first signatory country they enter. (end/ips/pr/gm/jm/93) From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Wed Feb 3 05:44:53 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1993 21:44:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: TURK AIRCRAFT ATTACK REBEL KURDS FO Message-ID: From: Subject: TURK AIRCRAFT ATTACK REBEL KURDS FO /* Written 8:30 pm Jan 31, 1993 by hrcoord at igc.apc.org in igc:hr.eurmideast */ /* ---------- "TURK AIRCRAFT ATTACK REBEL KURDS FO" ---------- */ From: Human Rights Coordinator Subject: TURK AIRCRAFT ATTACK REBEL KURDS FO /* Written 1:14 pm Jan 29, 1993 by sehari at iastate.edu in igc:soc.culture.ir */ TURK AIRCRAFT ATTACK REBEL KURDS FOR SECOND DAY ANKARA, Jan 22, Reuter - Turkish jets and helicopter gunships attacked separatist Kurdish guerrilla bases in eastern Turkey for the second successive day on Friday, a security official said. ``The operation is continuing today. But no clear result (on rebel casualties) has been received. We must wait for the operation to end,'' an official from the emergency rule governorate in Diyarbakir city told Reuters by telephone. He did not give any details on the operation. On Monday, six planes dropped bombs on camps of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and helicopter gunships fired missiles at snow-covered slopes in the Yolalan and Sihcuman regions in Bitlis province. Mountain commandos were moving up the slopes, covered with up to two meters (6.5 ft) of snow, to seize the camps after aerial attacks end, security sources said. Last week, military officials estimated 150 rebels were killed in two days of air strikes on rebel camps in the eastern province of Bingol. Security sources said the military hoped repeated attacks would cripple the PKK before it regroups for a spring offensive. More than 5,300 people have been killed in Turkey since the Marxist PKK launched a violent campaign in 1984 for a separate Kurdish state. REUTER SY AS JCH -- From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Wed Feb 3 05:45:57 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1993 21:45:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: GERMAN REPORTER JAILED FOR HELPING Message-ID: From: Subject: GERMAN REPORTER JAILED FOR HELPING /* Written 8:31 pm Jan 31, 1993 by hrcoord at igc.apc.org in igc:hr.eurmideast */ /* ---------- "GERMAN REPORTER JAILED FOR HELPING" ---------- */ From: Human Rights Coordinator Subject: GERMAN REPORTER JAILED FOR HELPING /* Written 1:16 pm Jan 29, 1993 by sehari at iastate.edu in igc:soc.culture.ir */ GERMAN REPORTER JAILED FOR HELPING REBEL KURDS DIYARBAKIR, Turkey, Jan 22, Reuter - A Turkish state security court sentenced a German freelance reporter to three years and nine months in jail after he was convicted of helping a rebel Kurdish group. ``Stefan Woldberg, 25, was jailed...because the items seized with him are evidence that he helped and sheltered the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party),'' the court said after the hearing in Diyarbakir, southeast Turkey. It said interviews he made and recorded on audio tapes in camps, PKK lapel pins and letters from PKK members to be sent to Germany showed he had helped the group, whose eight-year-old independence war in Turkey has claimed more than 5,400 lives. Woldberg, in jail since his detention, said he rejected the charges. ``I am being accused without evidence. I did not help the PKK,'' he told the court. He said he was beaten by Turkish police during his interrogation. He was detained by Turkish forces when he entered the country from Iraq in November on suspicion that he helped the banned PKK during his visit to its camps in northern Iraq. REUTER ERC JCH -- From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Wed Feb 3 05:47:49 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1993 21:47:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Turkey: Bomb Kills Eight Message-ID: From: Subject: Turkey: Bomb Kills Eight /* Written 8:33 pm Jan 31, 1993 by hrcoord at igc.apc.org in igc:hr.eurmideast */ /* ---------- "Turkey: Bomb Kills Eight" ---------- */ From: Human Rights Coordinator Subject: Turkey: Bomb Kills Eight /* Written 1:24 pm Jan 29, 1993 by sehari at iastate.edu in igc:soc.culture.ir */ BOMB KILLS EIGHT, INJURES 120 IN N. IRAQ - KURDISH OFFICIAL ANKARA, Jan 23, Reuter - A car bomb killed eight people and wounded 120 on Friday in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil, inside the ``safe haven'' for Kurds set up by the U.S.-led Gulf War allies, a Kurdish party official said in Ankara. ``The bomb exploded in a central and crowded area at 1310 local time. It also wrecked many nearby stores and cars,'' an official from the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) told reporters. The PUK official said: ``We are 80 per cent certain that the bomb was planted by Baghdad.'' REUTER SY WS -- From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Wed Feb 3 05:48:52 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1993 21:48:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Turkey: Eight Killed Message-ID: From: Subject: Turkey: Eight Killed /* Written 8:34 pm Jan 31, 1993 by hrcoord at igc.apc.org in igc:hr.eurmideast */ /* ---------- "Turkey: Eight Killed" ---------- */ From: Human Rights Coordinator Subject: Turkey: Eight Killed /* Written 1:27 pm Jan 29, 1993 by sehari at iastate.edu in igc:soc.culture.ir */ EIGHT KILLED IN SOUTHEASTERN TURKEY ISTANBUL, Jan 23, Reuter - Four people were killed in the in the city of Diyarbakir in southeastern Turkey on Saturday when gunmen sprayed a coffee house with automatic weapons fire, Turkish television said. Four more people were killed when a bomb left by the gunmen exploded at the house of a child who had taken it home, it said. Fourteen people were wounded in the two incidents. The television gave no reason for the attack on the coffee house. Some survivors interviewed on television said it was frequented by elderly people. More than 5,000 people have been killed in political violence in the southeast since Kurdish separatists launched a guerrilla camapign against the government in 1984. REUTER RE JW -- From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Wed Feb 3 06:08:07 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1993 22:08:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Belgium: Kurds on Hunger Strike Message-ID: From: Subject: Belgium: Kurds on Hunger Strike /* Written 9:06 pm Feb 2, 1993 by hrcoord at igc.apc.org in igc:hr.eurmideast */ /* ---------- "Belgium: Kurds on Hunger Strike" ---------- */ From: Human Rights Coordinator Subject: Belgium: Kurds on Hunger Strike /* Written 12:27 am Feb 2, 1993 by geonet at gn.apc.org in igc:geo2.its */ Telex News 4 February 1, 1993 Belgium: Six hundred Kurds from all over Europe have started a sit-in and hunger strike in the centre of Brussels on January 24 in protest at the "inhuman and degrading repression by the Turkish state against the Kurdish population". The ICFTU's Belgian affiliate, the FGTB, has sent a message of support to the protesters. The protest has been organised by 15 members of the Europe-based Kurdistan national assembly. From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Wed Feb 3 06:18:03 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1993 22:18:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: TURKISH KURDS LAUNCH HUNGER STRIKE Message-ID: From: Subject: TURKISH KURDS LAUNCH HUNGER STRIKE /* Written 10:02 pm Feb 2, 1993 by hrcoord at igc.apc.org in igc:hr.eurmideast */ /* ---------- "TURKISH KURDS LAUNCH HUNGER STRIKE" ---------- */ From: Human Rights Coordinator Subject: TURKISH KURDS LAUNCH HUNGER STRIKE /* Written 3:33 pm Feb 1, 1993 by sehari at iastate.edu in igc:soc.culture.ir */ TURKISH KURDS LAUNCH HUNGER STRIKE IN BRUSSELS BRUSSELS, Jan 26, Reuter - Fifteen Kurdish politicians have joined 700 kurds on a hunger strike in Brussels to put pressure on Western governments to prevent what they say are Turkish plans for genocide in Kurdistan. The politicians, elected in Europe to a Kurdish parliament in exile, urged the European Parliament at a news conference on Tuesday to send a delegation to Kurdistan to investigate human rights abuses. ``We want to make known to the world the tragedy of our people's situation and to make Western public opinion aware of the approaching genocide,'' the MPs said in a statement. Since Sunday, 700 Kurds have been camping in a former meat market in central Brussels. They have consumed only sugar-water and tea and spend most of the day sitting on thin foam mattresses. About 2,000 people responded to the appeal for a hunger strike but there was only enough room in the Brussels hall for 700, one of the politicians said. Turkish Kurds in Canada and Australia had also joined the protest action, he added. ``We are on an unlimited hunger strike. People may die, but we are prepared to carry on until we get a response from Western governments,'' said Ilhan Kizilhan, a member of the Kurdistan National Assembly, the parliament in exile. The politicians accused Western states of ignoring events in Kurdistan and said they had been ``taken in by the liberal mask'' of the government. Belgian parliamentarians have supported the strike call. Senator Hugo Van Rompaey said he had visited Kurdistan in 1991 and had been alarmed by human rights abuses there. ``We must bring pressure on the Turkish government to respect human rights and to find a democratic way to solve the problem of the Kurdish people,'' he said. The Turkish government has taken a tough line against separatist Kurdish groups, which want an independent Kurdistan. More than 5,200 people have been killed in Turkey since the Kurdistan Workers Party launched a guerrilla war in 1984. REUTER SEP THW -- From istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org Sat Feb 6 00:40:18 1993 From: istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org (istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org) Date: 06 Feb 1993 00:40:18 Subject: distributor murdererd by countergue Message-ID: <4v8NG4or8F@ip.cl-hh.comlink.de> Yeni Uelke Basmusahip Sok 16/4 Cagaloglu ISTANBUL Turkey tel +90 1 513 34 32 fax +90 1 513 41 33 21.01.93 press release ONE OF OUR DISTRIBUTORS WAS MURDERED BY COUNTER-GUERILLA Orhan Karaagar (age 30) who is a distributer of "Yeni Uelke" and "Oezguer Guendem" newspapers of Wan, a city of Kurdistan, was murdered by counter-guerilla in January 19, 1993. In last two month, in Kurdistan, three distributers where murdered by "unknown forces". A lot of them were threatended by counter-guerillas. A lot of journalists were arrested and killed. Target of Turkish government, cutting relationship between Kurdish people and newspapers. All these applcations are the result of a piece of "Dirty War" and the same time, these applications are showing to end Turkish regime. We will continue to write realnews. We also don't stop talking. The editor of Yeni Uelke Buelent Aydin## CrossPoint v2.1 R ## From aforum at moose.uvm.edu Mon Feb 8 20:54:12 1993 From: aforum at moose.uvm.edu (aforum at moose.uvm.edu) Date: 08 Feb 1993 20:54:12 Subject: No Subject Line Message-ID: From: aforum at moose.uvm.edu (autonome forum) This is just a quick note to let everyone know that alt.poltics.radical-left is now up and running! Hopefully this newsgroup can function as a good means for various left-radical/revolutionary groups to exchange news itmes that are otherwise neglected by the capitalist media establishment. For social revolution, autonome forum aforum at moose.uvm.edu From istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org Tue Feb 9 01:36:47 1993 From: istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org (istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org) Date: 09 Feb 1993 01:36:47 Subject: Looking for contact Message-ID: <4vOOzERr8F@ip.cl-hh.comlink.de> Merheba! Hi, we are knew on this conference. We are looking for contact. We are interested in publishing more and better information about Kurdistan and Turkey here in APC. We trying to establish electronic communications here in Istanbul. And would like to talk about using turkish/kurdish on computer, turkish/kurdish mails in APC as well. For the time being we are more or less in contact with ISCILERIN SESI YENI UELKE WELAT SOCIALIST TURKEY PARTY (STP) HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATION (IHD) With greetings cje ------- Istanbul People - Trying to establish electronic communication for progressive groups in Istanbul Write to us in english, turkish, kurdish, german E-Mail : istanbul_people at cl-hh.comlink.apc.org From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Thu Feb 11 08:49:11 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 00:49:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: REFUGEES: Kurdish hunger strike ent Message-ID: From: Subject: REFUGEES: Kurdish hunger strike ent /* Written 12:11 am Feb 8, 1993 by newsdesk at igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */ /* ---------- "REFUGEES: Kurdish hunger strike ent" ---------- */ Copyright Inter Press Service 1993, all rights reserved. Permission to re- print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'. Reference: Europe, western Title: REFUGEES: Kurdish hunger strike enter its twelfth day brussels, feb 5 (ips/alecia mckenzie) -- a group of 700 kurdish hunger strikers have entered the twelfth day of their protest here friday against the turkish government to force it to end its violent campaign against the country's 15 million kurds. the hunger strikers are calling upon ec member states to stop selling arms to turkey and to put pressure on the ec's european and national parliaments to send delegations to kurdistan to inspect the situation there. those appeals were reiterated by a greek parliamentary delegation which met with european commission officials friday. the hunger strike, begun jan. 24, will ''continue until europe awakens'', said the kurdistan committee's spokesperson, who goes by the name of ''medya''. a 20-year-old student at the free university of brussels, medya declines to reveal her real name because she fears reprisals from turkish authorities. she says her uncle was killed last year by turkish troops in kurdistan. in fact, many of the hunger-strikers occupying the vast st. gery hall in the centre of brussels have similar tales of persecution at the hands of the turkish state. they speak of torture, arrests and killings. many are members or sympathisers of the marxist kurdistan workers party (pkk), which turkey considers a terrorist organization. the protesters also include 15 kurdish ''parliamentarians'' who have been elected by some 90,000 kurds living in europe. they initiated the hunger strike, inviting kurds from england, germany, france, sweden, the netherlands and other countries to take part. initially, more than 2,000 kurds wanted to participate but many had to be turned back for lack of room. simultaneous hunger strikes are also taking place in canada, australia, finland and in prisons in turkey. in kurdistan, shops were closed for two days and traffic stopped, in solidarity with the protestors. since 1984, the pkk has been locked in an armed struggle with the turkish state, which does not recognise the kurds as a separate nation. the kurdish language was officially banned until two years ago. according to the pkk, the turkish state killed 14,000 kurds from 1925 to 1938, and 7,000 more from 1979 to 1992. this year, turkey intends to launch total war against the kurdish people, the pkk says. but international observers have accused both sides of committing atrocities.(more/ips) refugees: kurdish hunger strike enter its twelfth day(2-e) such accusations are unfair, according to asif hasan spokesman for the national liberation front of kurdistan, the political wing of the pkk. ''the world is a network of special interests, and some western countries behave subjectively because of their economic interests in turkey,'' he said. he added that in the past, some pkk commanders have carried out attacks in which women and children were killed, but that these fighters were punished. he cited the case of a commander who killed a ''collaborator'' along with a woman and two children who were in the same house. ''the commander knew he would be punished, so what did he do? he fled to the turkish state where they are using him as a counter- guerrilla. so you can see where the killers are hiding,'' hasan said. he acknowledged, however, that when pkk militants find ''obstacles'' in their path, they ''remove them, including collaborators''. still, according to hasan, the pkk would prefer to have a peaceful solution to the problem, but he said that every time the kurds make such appeals, the turkish state ''bombard one of our villages''. ''if we use arms, it is the primitiveness of the turkish state that forces us to do so,'' hasan said. for its part, turkey dismisses the pkk as terrorists and officials have said that the organisation is coercing the hunger strikers in brussels. whatever the truth, many of the protestors ''are willing to die for the struggle'' medya said. the visiting greek parliamentary delegation are urging the european community (ec) to take action against turkey over their treatment of their indigenous kurdish population. greece is a natural ally of the kurds because ''they, too, have suffered at the hands of turkey'' according to a spokesperson for the kurdistan committee, which represents kurds living in belgium. greece is currently blocking turkey's application to join the ec. (end/ips/hr/am/mf/93) From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Thu Feb 11 08:50:49 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1993 00:50:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: CULTURE: Film festival addresses pr Message-ID: From: Subject: CULTURE: Film festival addresses pr /* Written 12:03 am Feb 9, 1993 by newsdesk at igc.apc.org in igc:ips.englibrary */ /* ---------- "CULTURE: Film festival addresses pr" ---------- */ Copyright Inter Press Service 1993, all rights reserved. Permission to re- print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'. Title: CULTURE: Film festival addresses problem of censorship an inter press service feature by guido de bruin rotterdam, feb 6 (ips) -- film makers in many parts of the world face obstructions from hostile governments. but, in a special programme, the rotterdam film festival has shown some examples of films which the censors would rather the public did not see. kurdish children stealthily going to school in a cave, a struggle between a deserter and a patriot in serbia, and the ruins of an indus civilisation monument in pakistan -- three subjects of recent controversial movies made under difficult circumstances. for the second time in its 22-year existence, the internationally renowned rotterdam film festival ran a programme titled 'the limits of liberty' dealing with human rights issues concerning film makers in various countries. the festival closes on sunday. this year, an organisation called 'filmfree' will be set up to provide support to film makers in all kinds of trouble. one of the people who could have done with help from filmfree is senar turgut, producer of the kurdish movie 'siyabend and xece' which witnessed its world premiere in rotterdam. right from the start, the turkish authorities tried to stop the shooting of the film in kurdistan, a province in south-eastern turkey, where kurds struggle for self-determination. turgut had convinced the authorities that he was filming a turkish love story, but when the shooting progressed, the police apparently discovered there was more to the film, and told turgut it would be better if he stopped filming. turgut refused and he ended up in jail, where he says he was tortured and spent two months without trial. the film survived, however, and was edited in germany. 'siyabend and xece' is based on a kurdish fairy tale, set in the times of the ottoman empire, in which the hero takes on the prince and his tax collectors. according to script writer huseyin erdem, who lives in exile in germany, the tale has a clear political dimension. few viewers will not have made the leap from the ottoman prince to his present- day turkish counterparts. ''the turkish government is afraid of a fairy-tale,'' erdem said. the government, which was systematically trying to suppress kurdish culture, did not miss the point, he added. (more/ips) culture: film festival addresses problem of censorship(2-e) in the film, an old man tells the fairy tale to school children in a remote cave, in spite of occasional shooting outside. for erdem, this signifies that ''our culture is transmitted through children, and will not die due to all the shooting''. another culture threatened by government repression is that of sindh, a province in pakistan, whose inhabitants try to retain their culture which they trace back to the 5,000-year-old indus civilisation. ''where peacocks dance'' is 1991 film by sabiha sumar, which tries to picture the aspirations of the 25 million sindhis in the face of attempts by the pakistan government to spread a uniform islamic culture among them. ''how can we save that which has been destroyed by god?'', a sindhi, interviewed in the film, quotes an official justifying the government's alleged reluctance to preserve the indus civilisation remains of mohenjo daro. for sindhis it is a potent symbol of their culture. ''my basic motivation was to give voice to the people of sindh,'' sumar said. the government was not pleased, and started an investigation. sumar left pakistan after her documentary was shown on channel four in britain, afraid of a government reprisal. ''i hope to be able to show the film in pakistan in the coming months. it will be an underground film, as it will never get a censorship clearance,'' she said. ''i was assured by the authorities there will be no more harassment when i come back to pakistan, but i don't trust everything will be all right,'' sumar added. a separate programme in the festival showed comedies from egypt and iran, two countries where censors are very active to keep film production within the limits of islamic morals. ''in iran, there are as many civil servants as there are censorship regulations,'' said film critic nasser zerraati, noting that iranian directors really don't know exactly what is allowed and what not. but iranian directors dariush farhang and abolhassen davudi are not terribly upset by censorship in their country. they know their limitations, but try to make the best of it, trying to push the censorship barriers. ''we always try to make the kind of art that we want. but it is better to make something half-satisfactory than to make nothing. we need time to improve in the future,'' davudi said. and farhang says things have improved in recent years. for example, a close-up of a woman would not be tolerated five years ago, but passes censors now without problem. things are changing slowly, he said, and that keeps him going. (end/ips/ce/gdb/mf/93) From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Fri Feb 19 04:18:50 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 20:18:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: AI EX013/93 TURKEY Fear of torture Message-ID: From: Subject: AI EX013/93 TURKEY Fear of torture /* Written 6:59 pm Feb 11, 1993 by rmitchellai at gn.apc.org in igc:ai.uan */ /* ---------- "AI EX013/93 TURKEY Fear of torture" ---------- */ EXTERNAL (for general distribution) AI Index: EUR 44/10/93 Distr: UA/SC EXTRA 13/93 Fear of Torture 11 February 1993 TURKEY: Adnan Alp, owner of MELSA Publishing House Besra Eksen (female), member of People's Labour Party HEP Salih Dindar, board member of Mesopotamia Culture Centre Celal Sekeroglu, Mesopotamia Culture Centre Saniye Aktas (female), Mesopotamia Culture Centre Mahmut Fakhani Kemal Sahin Haydar Demir Guler from journal Ozgur Halk (second name is not known to Amnesty International) Amnesty International is concerned for the safety of scores of people, including those named above, who have been detained during the past few days in an ongoing police operation in Istanbul. On 9 February 1993, five people were detained at the office of the Kurdish owned newspaper Yeni Ulke and four were released the following day. However, one of them, Adnan Alp, was brought back to the newspaper office by the police on 10 February, where he was beaten by 15-20 plainclothes policemen who were armed with automatic weapons. They beat him in front of the staff who could see that he was in a very poor state of health and then took him back to the police headquarters. Police also searched the offices of Yeni Ulke and of the journal Welat which is located in the same building. The police searched through their archives and confiscated film negatives, causing considerable damage and disorder. Adnan Alp and the other eight people named above, who were detained at various places in Istanbul on or around 9 February 1993, are held incommunicado at the Anti-Terror Branch of Istanbul Police Headquarters. Released detainees have reported that Besra Eksen was being badly tortured. BACKGROUND INFORMATION Turkey ratified the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture on 25 February 1988 and the UN Convention Against Torture on 2 August 1988. However, all information available to Amnesty International indicates that torture is still widespread and systematic in Turkey. Most allegations relate to ill-treatment of detainees in police custody during their initial interrogation when they are usually denied access to relatives or a lawyer. New legislation to shorten the maximum detention period came into force on 1 December 1992. Now the normal maximum period of 24 hours, for which a non-political detainee may be held before being formally charged or released, may be extended to eight days in cases of ordinary crimes involving three or more suspects. Detainees held on suspicion of political offences to be tried in State Security Courts may be held without charge for 15 days. This period may be extended to 30 days in provinces under emergency legislation or martial law. Emergency legislation is currently in force in 10 provinces in the southeast. RECOMMENDED ACTION: Please send telegrams/telexes/faxes/express and airmail letters either in English or in your own language: - expressing concern about the alleged beating of Adnan Alp by police officers at the office of Yeni Ulke on 10 February 1993; - urging that Adnan Alp and others detained in Istanbul on or around 9 February 1993 (including those named above) are not subjected to torture or ill-treatment; - asking on what charges they have been detained. APPEALS TO: Istanbul Chief of Police: Mr Necdet Menzir [Salutation: Dear Sir] Istanbul Emniyet Muduru Istanbul, Turkey Telegrams: Emniyet Muduru, Istanbul, Turkey Telexes: 30811 IEHM TR, 30812 EMMH TR or 26177 IEMT TR Faxes: + 90 1 526 8100 Minister of the Interior: Mr Ismet Sezgin [Salutation: Dear Minister] Icisleri Bakanligi 06644 Ankara, Turkey Telegrams: Interior Minister, Ankara, Turkey Telexes: 46369 ICSL TR Faxes: + 90 4 418 1795 PLEASE SEND COPIES OF YOUR APPEALS TO: President of the Parliamentary Human Rights Commission: Mr Sabri Yavuz Insan Haklari Arastirma Komisyonu Baskani TBMM Ankara, Turkey and to the diplomatic representative in your country - please see the responses to this topic for details. PLEASE SEND APPEALS IMMEDIATELY. Please do not send appeals after 25 February 1993. From mbaltazar at igc.apc.org Sat Feb 20 10:49:37 1993 From: mbaltazar at igc.apc.org (mbaltazar at igc.apc.org) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 02:49:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: An Independent Kurdish State???? I Message-ID: From: Maria Antoinette Baltazar Subject: An Independent Kurdish State???? I The Middle East has provided the world with a setting of constant contention and disagreement. Recently, a particular matter of controversy in the Middle East has sparked great contention and disagreement between Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. The root of this controversy pertains to the Kurdish minorities within these countries. In this article I will examine the present current Kurdish situation in the Middle East and argue that an independent and sovereign Kurdish state is inconceivable because of inner Kurdish disputes, differences, and factional objectives. I will proceed the construction of my argument with background information relating to the present Kurdish political structure and continue with an examination of the Kurdish situation. In conclusion an evaluation will be presented of the Kurdish matter and the unlikelihood of an independent Kurdish state in the Middle East. The Present Kurdish Political Structure The Kurdish nation is geographically divided amongst Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. Since the Kurds are divided amongst four very distinct political state a collective Kurdish voice cannot be proclaimed throughout the Middle East. Thus, Kurds have established distinct factional organizations to express their views and carry out their "national" aspirations. In existence there are four major Kurdish factional organizations: the Iraqi Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP), the Iraqi Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), the Iranian Kurdish Democratic Party (KDPI), and Turkey's Parti-ye Karkarani-i Kurdistan (PKK, or the Kurdish Workers' Party). Each of these organizations have operated independently and according to separate political programs (Bolukbasi, 1991, p. 15). Division of Power and Influence Amongst Kurds As stated, Kurds are represented within Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey by the KDP, PUK, KDPI, and the PKK. Since the Kurdish population is geo-politically divided amongst these countries, each factional organization serves to satisfy the differentiating needs for its respective Kurdish community. However, different needs lead to distinct and preferred criteria of solution, thus, lies a source for potential inner-communal contention and disagreement. Due to the unique needs of the separate Kurdish communities', each factional organization has established specific divisions to satisfy their respective requirements, including militant contingencies. If preference for a particular cause or view is given by a particular factional organization and is seen as insignificant by another, controversy may arise that may lead to bloodshed amongst the respective militant contingencies. The respective Kurdish organizations are set out to achieve their desired political aspirations and by doing so, frequently utilize militant tactics. Thus, a power struggle arises. The realities of power are responses to problems of anarchic international environments with accompanying security dilemmas and resulting imperatives for self-help (Leiber, 1991, p.13). Conflicting interests and views amongst the various Kurdish factional organizations lead to problems of an anarchic inner- communal environment, resulting in a security predicament, and concluding with a need for self-help. The obvious similarities between the provided description of world affairs and the present Kurdish inner-predicament leads one to a problematic conclusion pertaining to the Middle East's Kurdish situation. The inner-communal power struggle can be illustrated by the PKK case. The PKK was established by Abdullah Ocalan and a number of his associates in 1978. Ocalan described that the necessary conditions for a Kurdish national independence movement, "were present and action was needed to materialize the PKK's principal objective, that of establishing an independent Kurdistan" (Bolukbasi, 1991, p.16) Although the PKK is a Kurdish secessionist party, until 1980 its activities were primarily against other Kurdish militants and members of other organizations, including Rizgari (Liberation), zgrlk Yolu (Freedom Path), Kawa (the name of a Kurdish hero), Kurdish National Liberators (KUK), and the Revolutionary Democratic Cultural Associations (KKDK). Like all functional organizations these Kurdish liberating movements need financial support and financing. In particular, the PKK robbed banks, jewelers, and engaged in arms and narcotics smuggling. Syria has provided logistical, military, and financial support to the PKK to the extent that by 1984 the PKK had lost most of its organizational freedom (Bolukbasi, 1991, p. 16-7). The PKK's major rivals for power and influence amongst the Kurds are the KDP, led by Mesut Barzani, and the PUK, led by Jalal Talabani. In essence both the KDP and PUK embrace the same objective: the overthrow of the Ba'th regime and the establishment of a democratic state with an autonomous Kurdistan. The distinct factional differences and their respective militant contingencies pose a great threat to a unified Kurdish nation. If Kurds cannot unite under a particular cause where ideological agreement is not a requirement, the progression of a Kurdish cause will be hindered. Differences amongst Kurdish communities bears the root of future inner-communal controversy, conflict, disagreement, and disunity. Hence, the likelihood of a unified Kurdish nation is inconceivable, let alone an independent Kurdish state. State Sovereignty State sovereignty is a country's right to control its own actions without external interference and influence. All states reserve the right to self-determination, at a minimum to protect their borders and at a maximum to expand their borders. The Kurdish matter is greatly affected by the principles of state sovereignty and the parties involved. Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey are all established states that have no intentions of allowing a foreign party or an association of parties, like the PKK, KDP, KDPI, and PUK, to extract land from their territorial boundaries in order to establish an independent Kurdistan. On October 16, 1992, the Turkish Prime Minister, Mr. Suleyman Demirel, attended a banquet at which he commented on the concept of state sovereignty pertaining to the Kurdish matter: A federal state has not been established in northern Iraq. A declaration of a Federal State is a unilateral decision. Turkey as a unitarian state will not give away an inch of her territory. (NA, 1991, p.1) States become very sensitive when parties, organizations, and/or individuals institute a scheme that will threaten their sovereignty. Sovereignty is key principle for which states will, at an extreme, wage war to conserve and preserve. The notion of establishing an independent Kurdistan in the Middle East provides Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey with discomfort: it threatens their sovereignty. In the past Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey have all conveyed military operations against terrorist-militant contingencies that have threatened their respective state sovereignties. Terrorism, as defined by The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary, is, "the policy of using acts inspiring terror as a method of ruling or of conducting political opposition."(Cayne, 1988, p. 1021) Since Kurdish factional organizations use militant contingencies that cause bloodshed and destruction in the name of political expression, they are considered terrorists. Thus, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey have all engaged in anti-terrorist campaigns to protect their respective borders and boundaries: a principle of state sovereignty. While Kurdish factions continue to threaten the sovereignty of states in which the Kurdish nation exists, Kurds will find it very difficult to negotiate the simplest of human rights and the idea of political representation. If Kurds terminate the use of terror they will obtain support from the global community. For sensible states do not support terrorists or terrorist activities. Kurds must make an attempt to negotiate with the concerned states and firstly establish formal representation. For example, the present Turkish Foreign Minister, Mr. Hikmet Cetin, is an ethnic Kurd. If Kurds make a forced attempt of statehood, they will neither receive international aid or be permitted to maintain their statehood by the concerned sovereign states in the Middle East. State Building And Nation Dismantling The concept of state building has an adverse effect on nations: it dismantles them. While people attempt to unite and establish a state that will represent their aspirations, interests, and view in the international community, other nations are dismantled in the process. When the borders and boundaries of a state are established it is common to see that a nation within the geo-politically divided area to be dismantled. This concept can be illustrated by utilizing the Kurdish case. The Treaty of Versailles restructured and established the present day Middle East. While the victorious allies were cutting, carving, and reshaping the Middle East, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria were established. Room for a Kurdish state was not allotted. Hence, the state building process contributed to the dismantling of the Kurdish nation. Once the geo-political structure of the Middle East was established, the newly created states set out to satisfy their national objectives and determine a format for progress. Throughout this process the Kurdish population within the Middle East was neglected and thus, did not advance as quickly as their sovereigns. This neglect caused resentment within the Kurdish nation towards the involved states. The resentment within Kurds was the basis for establishing the factional organizations. These organizations were to unite the Kurds and become a means by which Kurdish needs would be fulfilled. However, as earlier stated, ideological differences have rendered unique outlooks and have become a source of division amongst present day Kurds. Disunity within the Kurds is the Kurdish nation's most significant enemy. Inner-communal conflict, contention, and disagreement is restricting the opportunity for Kurdish consolidation and gives strong reason to believe an independent and united Kurdistan is inconceivable. Unlikelihood Of An Independent And United Kurdish State As it has been previously discussed the idea of an independent Kurdish state is highly unlikely. The states within the Middle East would have to give up, land, resources, and possibly regional influence. Since all the concerned countries view the present borders and boundaries as being permanent, it is highly unlikely that any one of the four states will accede any territory to comprise a Kurdish state. The flip-side of this issue is that a unified Kurdish nation is also highly unlikely. The factional organizations are backed by opposing parties with contradicting ideological views. The PKK is a Marxist organization that aims to "liberate" Kurdish- Turkey and then venture to do the same throughout the whole Middle East. Mesut Barzani, leader of the KDP, and Jalal Talabani, leader of the PUK, were in Ankara, Turkey, in early September 1992, holding talks with President Turgut Ozal. The main body of their discussions were about how the PKK could be rooted out of Northern Iraq (NA, Economist, 1992, p. 46) Mr. Barzani vowed that the PKK would be pushed out of his territory. However, Mr. Talabani went further to suggest that northern Iraq may one day become a part of Turkey, but then changed his motion to say, "We expect Turkey to be our mentor, similar to its treatment of Turkish Cypriots" (NA, Economist, 1992, p. 46) The Kurdish nation remains divided between ideological, geo- political, and directional structures. The Kurdish "aspiration" to establish an independent and sovereign Kurdistan is an inconceivable gesture. In order to achieve political acceptance Kurds must conform themselves to the routine lifestyles of their inherent states. By only doing this will the Kurds have their voices herd the channels of the political world. If Kurds continue to pursue political acknowledgement by means of terrorist activity political and cultural degeneration, not progression, will become inevitable. Due to the circumstances that entail the Kurdish nation, the concept of having an independent Kurdish state are inconceivable and unattainable. Works Cited Bolukbasi, Suha. "Ankara, Damascus, Baghdad, and the Regionalization of Turkey's Kurdish Secessionism." Journal of South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies. Volume XIV, No. 4, Summer 1991: . Cayne, Bernard. The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary. (New York: Lexicon Publications, 1988 edition.) Leiber, Robert. No Common Power. (New York: Harper Collins Publishers, 1991.) NA. "Border wars." The Economist. September 5, 1992: 56. NA. "PM Demirel: 'Turkey will not relinquish an inch of her territory'." Newspot. Octoboer 22, 1992: 1. ********************************** * * * Korsan Yakula Arif * * * ********************************** " But at no time has the island [Cyprus] been a constituent part of Hellenic Greece. It was absorbed, along with, but not as an integral part of, Greece proper and the Aegean area, by the Byzantine Empire. Its church was an autocephalous member of the Holy Eastern Orthodox Church, and thus religion combined with language to foster the idea that Cypriots were Greek in origin." Sir George Hill, 1952, p. 488 From pnmideast at igc.apc.org Sat Feb 20 22:57:46 1993 From: pnmideast at igc.apc.org (PeaceNet Middle East Team) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 14:57:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Facilitator Announcement: Class Message-ID: From: Subject: Facilitator Announcement: Class Dear Middle East networkers, As part of an online networking class, Alex Halavais (ahalavais) and Maria Baltazar (mbaltazar) are monitoring APC conferences for the purpose of posting material to the Middle East and gen.muslims conferences through the month of March. Any questions or comments can be directed to the class instructor, Howard Frederick (hfrederick) or to myself. Sincerely, Jennifer Smith Middle East facilitator, PeaceNet pnmideast at igc.apc.org From aforum at moose.uvm.edu Wed Feb 24 19:21:32 1993 From: aforum at moose.uvm.edu (aforum at moose.uvm.edu) Date: 24 Feb 1993 19:21:32 Subject: No Subject Line Message-ID: From: aforum at moose.uvm.edu (Autonome Forum) subject: German journalist jailed for supporting PKK posted by: Autonome Forum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (taken from misc.activism.progressive) AMARC Emergency Action Network 3575 St-Laurent, # 704 - Montreal, Quebec - H2X 2T7 Canada Fax: +(514) 849-7129 - Tel: +(514) 982-0351 Email: amarc at web.apc.org ACTION ALERT German Community Radio Journalist Jailed in Turkey On January 22, 1993 Stephan Waldberg, a freelance journalist with Radio Dreyeckland in Freiburg, Germany was sentenced to three years and nine months in prison by the Turkish State Security Council. Waldberg had been arrested in October and charged with being a courier for the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK), a movement whose eight year war for independence has claimed more than 5,400 lives. The facts of the case are as follows: 1) In September 1992 Stephan Waldberg travelled to Turkey to investigate the war being waged on the Kurdish civilian population by the Turkish government. He was particularly interested in discovering whether the Turkish government was using German-built weapons against the Kurdish community. 2) While in Turkey Waldberg had an opportunity to visit a PKK camp in Northern Iraq. While there he witnessed numerous bombardments, including some in which the Turkish air-force was involved. 3) On October 22, 1992 he travelled back to Turkey and was arrested at the border. He was held in prison and tortured by the Turkish police for a week before the German embassy was notified of his arrest. German embassy officials visited him on November 19. At that time he gave a detailed accounting of ill-treatment and blackmail attempts by the Turks. 4) Waldberg was tried by the State Security Court, a special "emergency" court that hears political cases, such as those against PKK members. The court rejected Waldberg's defence that he was a journalist and sentenced him to three years and nine months in prison. In a statement following the sentencing the court maintained that the audio tapes, written information and lapel pins carried by Waldberg were "evidence that he helped and sheltered the PKK". Waldberg's case has been taken up by the German journalists union which called the sentence "legal terrorism" and by a Social Democrat member of parliament who questioned the legality of the conviction and demanded that Waldberg be freed. The newspaper Badische Zeitung wrote, "They made an example of Stephan Waldberg" because he questioned the "image of a democratic Turkey, a country with law and order which is orientated towards Western Europe." The German government has not enthusiastically sought Waldberg's freedom. According to a statement by Radio Dreyeckland the government's reticence may be explained by its unwillingness to sacrifice its close political, economic and military ties with Turkey. Germany continues to sell weapons systems to Turkey, including bomber aircraft. The statement adds that Dreyeckland "is rather a small radio station which has always been a thorn in the flesh of the government and for whose journalists it doesn't seem worth getting involved." The Stephan Waldberg case is of particular concern to AMARC because the prosecution successfully argued that Waldberg could not be granted the rights normally accorded to a journalist because he is not a paid professional. Radio Dreyeckland, like many other community radio stations, uses a network of volunteer freelancers for its programming. According to the Turkish court's decision, volunteer journalists do not have the rights normally accorded to paid journalists. An appeal of the decision will be heard within the next few months. Radio Dreyeckland will be sending a delegation to Ankara to witness the appeal and is hoping that international pressure will help obtain Stephan Waldberg's freedom. Action Requested Radio Dreyeckland requests the following: * Fax or write the German Foreign Minister requesting that he actively intervene in the case to obtain the release of Stephan Waldberg: Mr. Klaus Kinkel Minister of Foreign Affairs Auswaertiges Amt Adenauerallee 99-103 D-5300 Bonn 1 Germany Fax: +49-228-17 34 02 * Fax or write the Turkish embassy in your country or region protesting the trial and demanding Waldberg's freedom. * Ask your own Foreign Ministry whether they guarantee the protection of volunteer freelance journalists. * Please send a copy of your faxes or letters to: Radio Dreyeckland Alderstr. 12 7800 Freiburg Germany Fax: +49-761-31 868 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Autonome Forum Arm The Spirit PO Box 1242 PO Box 57584, Jackson Stn. 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PO Box 1242 Hamilton, Ontario Burlington, Vermont L8P 4X3 Canada 05402-1242 USA If you would like to receive updates from ATS on-line, please send your e-mail address in a message with the header "ATS: e-mail request" to: aforum at moose.uvm.edu Arm The Spirit is also availble via anonymous-ftp from 141.211.182.91 in the directory /poli/Autonome.Forum/Arm.The.Spirit. In Solidarity, Arm The Spirit 22.2.93 From nyt at nyxfer.UUCP Sun Feb 28 23:53:52 1993 From: nyt at nyxfer.UUCP (nyt at nyxfer.UUCP) Date: 28 Feb 1993 23:53:52 Subject: POW Kurds,Journalist Wounded by Tur Message-ID: Subject: POW Kurds,Journalist Wounded by Turkish Army From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News) Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit From: newsdesk at mit.hacktic.nl (Newsdesk Amsterdam) PRESS-RELEASE 202 PRISONERS OF WAR AND A GERMAN JOURNALIST WOUNDED BY SOLDIERS IN THE PRISON DIYARBAKIR, TURKISH KURDISTAN. The Kurdisch Press-agency Kurd-ha reported on Feb. 12 that on Feb.4 and Feb.9 in the prison from Diyarbakir, 202 prisoners of war were injured by soldiers. Amongst them are 69 heavily injured. The german journalist Stephan Waldberg, who is detained in this prison, was also heavily wounded. In the dutch press there was no information about this "incident". There apeared only a short message in the "NRC" (a so called quality paper here) that because of recent escapes from prisoners, recent incidents in the prison from Diyarbakir (without mentioning the number of wounded) Turky applied for a subdidy from the EC from 78.000.000 dollars for making their prisons more secure.(!) When there's a need we have a list of 139 names of prioners who are wounded. Newsdesk Amsterdam <16:31/102 at ECN.FNT> + Join Us! Support The NY Transfer News Collective + + We deliver uncensored information to your mailbox! + + Modem: 718-448-2358 FAX: 718-448-3423 e-mail: nyxfer at panix.com +