[SPAM] - Re: [Telecentres] Going forward - Email found in subject
Hallam Hope
caritel at freemotion.bb
Mon Sep 27 06:27:21 BST 2004
Dear All,
The issue of structure is interesting because it has been a point of some
minority dissent in another civil society group with whch I am associated.
In practice it need not be because some like myself have no interest in
speaking or "representing" anybody. In the Caribbean we have insularity
within the English-speaking countries and then there is the
Spanish-speaking, French-speaking etc. a whole dichotomy of cultures etc.
The Vice Chair should essentially be a focal point and any spokesperson-type
role should merely represent the stated interests from the area.
For example, last year I volunteered to co-odinate a WSIS position paper for
civil society on ICT. A small group of persons helped to put it together and
I did the overall writing/editing. It was then circulated to the group with
a deadline for inputs, which were included.
The same can be done for tele-centres with a specific paper coming from the
Caribbean based on the inputs from civil society in this region.
The same could be done for other hemisperhic regions.
But we need some co-ordination, some folk to take the lead and some
guidelines on what it is we want to achieve and focus on.
We really are not talking about bureaucracy or speaking on behalf of others,
simply getting their inputs and representing those positions.
Hallam
Bridgetown, Barbados
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From: "Hannah Beardon" <HannahB at actionaid.org>
To: "Andy Carvin" <acarvin at edc.org>
Cc: <telecentres at wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 12:41 PM
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I can see where you're coming from, Andy, and realise how important it is to
get a wide representative group, but I do worry that picking a few
geographically dispersed people is inevitably a superficial way of dealing
with representativity. I don't want this group to be absorbed only in
thinking about this issue - but it is a shame that when we represent the
type of work which is about giving people voice and control over
communciation media we tend still to speak on their behalf rather than
facilitate a debate to include them. I don't think that just a
geogrpahically dispersed group will mean anything - it may be that you alone
are a more efficient way of editing and summarising our arguments to feed
into policy if you are commited and your heart is in the right place. What
we need to be looking at is where those arguments come from, whose voices
are being included in the debate and how we are accountable to the poor and
marginalised that we are supposedly working for.
Hannah
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[mailto:telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Andy Carvin
Sent: 26 September 2004 19:00
To: Enzo Puliatti; telecentres at wsis-cs.org
Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Telecentres] Going forward - Email found in subject
Hi everyone,
The goal here is to not create a new bureacracy; the reason we need to know
who our leadership is is because we are a WSIS civil society working group
and will have to report to the civil society bureau as we come up with
recommendations, statements, speaker nominations, etc, for WSIS and the two
preceding prepcom meetings. As far as the bureau is concerned at the moment,
I'm serving as the focal point for the group, since I organized the group.
So if we don't take any action, that will remain the same, and I'm perfectly
happy to report to the bureau for us on my own. But my suggestion to have a
few co-chairs or vice chairs was simply to make us more geographically
representative. There have been some complaints throughout the WSIS process
that civil society representatives from the north have played too
domineering a role, with not enough representation from the South. That's
why I thought it would be good for me to share the responsibility with a
co-chair from the South, or have a few vice chairs representing different
regions.
I don't think we need to be thinking about creating formalized governance
structures for our group; it's more like we just need to be able to say to
the rest of the world who's responsible for the group.
(and ideally, who's in a position to participate in the various wsis
meetings over the next year.)
The #1 purpose of this group is to try to represent the interests of the
telecentre movement during WSIS-related activities. On a secondary level, I
think we'll want to see if we can create any longer-term goals, given that
WSIS itself will only go on for another 14 months. I'd hope that we might be
able to help forge a sustainable virtual network for sharing resources
amongst telecentres around the world, but that's just one of the ideas we're
considering....
ac
Enzo Puliatti wrote:
> Hello my friends,
>
>
> I am sorry to say it, but I have the feeling that instead of using
> these wonderful tools to interact obtain first hand information on
> successful experiences and on mistakes that should not repeated to
> have more impact with our work it looks to me like we are starting to
> build another small bureaucracy, with nominations and campaign...
>
> Do we really need this right now?
>
> Do we really know enough each other's to be able to make any serious
choice?
>
> Couldn't we postpone a bit all this for a later stage while we slowly
> get organized?
>
> Regards,
>
> Enzo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Hallam Hope <mailto:caritel at freemotion.bb>
> *To:* telecentres at wsis-cs.org <mailto:telecentres at wsis-cs.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 27, 2004 9:24 AM
> *Subject:* [Telecentres] Going forward
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I sense agreement on moving forward with (a) election of a Chair to
> co-ordinate the work of the group and (b) regional vice-Chairs. With
> this structure in place we would then have a group to start work on
> defining a draft list of issues, which could be brought back to the
> general body for inputs, and then we could move from there.
> My suggestion would be to agree on an interim person who does not
> necessarily have to be one of those chosen to get the process going
> and completed.
> We could agree, for example to a period ending October 15th.
> During this time those persons interested in the Chair or who have
> nominations would email those nominations to the group and the
> interim co-ordinator be responsible for collating those names and on
> the 15th, we would share that list and ask for votes, with a cut off
> pint of the end of October.
> Once we have elected a Chair, who is qualified by (a) Expertise and
> knowledge and (b) has access to the funds to attend or support
> representation of the group at WSIS meetings or can raise funding
> for the Chair, then we agree on that person and they take charge of
> the process of chosing the Vice chairs, agreeing an agenda for work
etc.
> I would volunteer to co-ordinate this interm process of election of
> a Chair.
> Yes, no??? Alternatives?
>
> Hallam Hope
> Bridgetown, Barbados
> www.hallamhope.com <http://www.hallamhope.com>
>
>
>
>
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