[Telecentres] requesting immediate feedback:telecentres/educationstatement

Tue Feb 22 18:54:07 GMT 2005

Andy,

Thanks for the feedback.

Hard to keep track of the timetable of things when one is not onsite and did
not want to miss a window.   I will post info for the specific items of the
political chapeau document.

Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Carvin [mailto:ACarvin at edc.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:19 AM
To: Elizabeth Carll, PhD
Cc: Andy Carvin; ciresearchers at vancouvercommunity.net;
communityinformatics at vancouvercommunity.net; Gurstein, Michael;
telecentres at wsis-cs.org
Subject: RE: [Telecentres] requesting immediate
feedback:telecentres/educationstatement

Hi everyone,

Just to be clear, the document we are drafting is focusing on the
educational aspects of financing mechanisms to bridge the digital divide,
so in this particular case, we won't be addressing health. That can be
worked into the larger political chapeau document as appropriate, which we
will discuss at the telecentres caucus meeting tomorrow.

thanks,
ac
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EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/
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"Elizabeth Carll, PhD" <ecarll at optonline.net>

02/22/2005 10:41 AM
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Andy, Michael and All,

Thank you for all your work on this and appreciate including the area of
health in number 4.  However, I would recommend it be revised to include
both "physical and mental health"  and any reference in the documents to
health always include both physical and mental.

It is amazing how most countries do not have any or only very limited
resources allocated to mental health services, whether for trauma resulting
from war, violence, and other crises, mental illness, or stress and dual
occurrences with physical illness as in the cases of diagnosis and
management of catastrophic illness.

In the US, one of the most affluent nations in the world, the allocation
for
healthcare resources for this important area is abysmal and a result of the
separation of the mind and the body.  It would be most unfortunate if the
same also occurs with allocation of resources in accessing mental health
information via ICT, especially in developing countries with limited
resources.   As many of us know, if no reference is made, it often doesn't
exist.

Appreciate your help with this.  Thank you in advance.

Elizabeth

Dr. Elizabeth Carll
Focal Point to WSIS
International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
Chair, Media/ICT Working Group,
UN NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York

-----Original Message-----
From: telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org
[mailto:telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of Gurstein, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:36 AM
To: Andy Carvin; telecentres at wsis-cs.org
Cc: ciresearchers at vancouvercommunity.net;
communityinformatics at vancouvercommunity.net
Subject: RE: [Telecentres] requesting immediate
feedback:telecentres/educationstatement

Andy,

Thanks for this opportunity and I've forwarded this to the Community
Informatics CIResearchers elists where there will likely be some
additional interest and response...

I'd like to contribute a few points as well, although I'm not sure from
your note as to whether this might be the appropriate place to introduce
these...

I think that mention should be made of the need for:
1. funding for bottom up and self or community organized
ICT initiatives

2. support for local content development including
training, applications development, market development

3. the means to utilize ICTs as supports to citizenship and
e-participation including in exercises such as the WSIS and particularly
in any agency or institution created as a follow up to the WSIS.

4. an "effective use" approach to public investments in
ICTs for Development at the local level, that is one which focusses on
locally significant/valuable ICT application areas such as learning,
health, local economic development, emergency and disaster management,
environmental management among others. An "effective use" approach is
one that ensures that the range of elements required for successful
implementation of an application at the local level are recognized and
supported and including
a. Carriage facilities -  the telecommunications
service infrastructure is needed to support the application being
undertaken?
b. Input/output devices - the devices (computers,
pda's, etc.) which users need to undertake the particular activity?
c. Tools and supports - the software, physical
supports, protocols, service supports required?
d. Content services - specifically designed content
needed for particular application areas including in local languages and
for various levels of literacy (or non-literacy)?
e. Service access/provision - an appropriate and
supportive social and organizational infrastructure, links to local
social networks, para-professionals, training facilities are necessary
for the particular use being developed?
f. Social facilitation - the local regional
authorities/resources, community and environmental infrastructure,
training, animation required to locally enable the desired application
or use? and
g. Governance - the required financing, regulatory
or policy regime, either for governance of the application or to enable
the implementation and long term sustainability of the application
within the broader national, regional and local legal or regulatory
systems?

Hope this helps,

MG

Michael Gurstein, Ph.D.

(for information only and does not imply organizational endorsement)
Member Advisory Board: Telecenters of the Americas; Member Advisory
Board Association for Community Networking; Board Member Telecommunities
Canada; Board Member Carrefours Mondial; Foundation Chair Community
Informatics Research Network

-----Original Message-----
From: telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org
[mailto:telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Andy Carvin
Sent: February 22, 2005 1:36 PM
To: telecentres at wsis-cs.org
Subject: [Telecentres] requesting immediate feedback:
telecentres/educationstatement

Hi everyone,

I've been working with Divina Frau-Meigs and Jane Johnson from the
education caucus to craft language to be presented in tomorrow morning's
plenary. As we wrote down our ideas, we realized that much of what we
had to say was similar to some of the ideas we have discussed on the
telecentres list.

So I would like to propose that we consider issuing a joint statement
with the education caucus on areas of agreement regarding the role of
schools, universities and telecentres in meeting the MDGs. Please give
me feedback on the following ideas as soon as possible, because our
telecentres meeting tomorrow afternoon will be too late in the process
to impact the discussion on financing mechanisms. thanks! -ac

ICTs are a key tool in achieving universal education, while wired
schools and non-formal learning institutions such telecenters can play a
major role in promoting development.

1. When considering financing mechanisms, do not neglect the role that
schools, universities and informal educational institutions such as
telecentres an play as a community hub for building knowledge and
integrating marginalized communities into the information society.

Schools, libraries and other institutions are existing infrastructures
that focus on the future -- the potential of our children and young
people. Young people should be a priority for accessing these
educational ICTs as they cannot afford to wait for policymakers; their
longterm prosperity is at stake.

2. It's not enough to finance infrastructure - professional development
for educators and curriculum development must also be addressed -
curriculum that is linguistically and culturally appropriate, including
open courseware.

3. Multi-purpose access points: schools should be able to serve as
telecentres, while telecentres can serve as educational institutions in
themselves

4. Encouraging local/community vested interest in the success of these
institutions. Community members must have a true stake in their
technological and educational development.

5. Promote the development of regional open courseware initiatives as a
primary means for cultural and linguistic diversity, for pluralism of
educational formats. These initiatives should be networked for worldwide
capacity building.

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Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/
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