Peace not War & the 1 million demo
james armstrong
james36armstrong at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 24 23:47:28 GMT 2009
The proposal below is to be discussed at the P not W meeting on Wednesday in London.
My first thoughts are that the case to the Iraq enquiry is, the demo is evidence that democracy is not working, and that the invasion of Iraq is the disastrous proof.
Maybe the best way to make the point is to submit written evidence and ask also to give evidence to the enquiry in person (employ an advocate?) and turn up in numbers on the day as a smaller representation of the 1 million demo. Its relevant to the land issue - in Iraq, and also in UK as effective democracy is the only prospect to bring about change
to the inequitable land system in UK.
James
Mark,
Goodwishes for your meeting on Wednesday.
To-day is a very important for our non democracy.
The official Iraq enquiry has started.
(dont hold your breath)
"750,000" (Police),"1 million" (BBC)" 2 million" (anti war organisers), on Sunday 16th Feb, 2003 , marched in London and also in Glasgow ,and Belfast, against the incipient Iraq invasion.
I am bringing this to the attention of the enquiry , with the point that
it is relevant evidence that should be consdered. into the legitimacy and the democratic credentials of theUK government.
It is relevant in connection with the later invasion, that for ' the biggest ever demonstration in London" (Police statement ) and therefore important in a democracy , there was, and is , no constitutional arrangement to feed this unprecedented expression of the voice of the people.
Offensive overseas war is the extreme defining characteristic of the legitimacy of statehood and with no means of representing the people's`voice on the Iraq war issue, the legitimacy of constitutional government as at present constituted in UK is questioned.
Could you find an opportunity to raise this view at the meeting?
James, Dorchester.
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:15:52 +0000
> From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com
> To: campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org
> Subject: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] This Wed Reminder
>
> Just a quick reminder:
>
> This Wednesday 25th November from 6pm
> Campaign for Real Democracy meeting & presentation
> 1 Richmond Road
> Dalston Hackney E8
>
> Draft Agenda - pls suggest any other items
>
> - Local Reports
> - Future meetings with PnW / others
> - Egality Now
> - Dec 2nd CRD with 21st Century Network
> - Dec 15th CRD stall at House of Commons event
> - Proposed Feb meeting with Community Sector Coalition
> - Report/discuss 2010 direct action election campaign
> - Leaflet Distribution
>
> -------------
>
> Wed meeting kindly hosted by Peace not War and Passing Clouds:
> "Discussions and friendliness from 6pm, Campaign for Real Democracy
> presentation/meeting at 7:30, "Money as Debt" presentation at 8:30.
> Great musicians and performers from 9pm. Brandy hot chocolate! Mulled
> wine (and spiced alcohol-free punch). Delicious vegan food.
>
> The Campaign for Real Democracy (CRD) aims at encouraging
>
> 1. local democracy cells to form in every neighbourhood
> 2. consensus based democratic decision making
> 3. a movement under one banner and a transformed culture
>
> Free entry before 9.30pm - £2 after.
>
> All proceeds to Solar Aid
>
> Please can CRD people and others interested be there to take leaflets
> for distribution, help out with event (and therefore, team building
> for future events) and to generally show a face to each other
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
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