Protesters set up camp in Parliament Square - Telegraph

Mark Barrett marknbarrett at googlemail.com
Mon May 17 21:19:18 BST 2010


Gracias Javier et Al

Comrades this below got sent to me in response to the message about the
Telegraph article (
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7730578/Protesters-set-up-camp-in-Parliament-Square.html)
and wider call to populate Parliament Square for a meeting of all the
groups.

Thanks TT for shedding light on this message from Javier:

"He is giving an historical explanation of the piracy of the parliamentary
system, I translated few lines. He is saying that it is a fact that the
liberal classic politics was designed to protect the interests of the
emerging *bourgeoisie* in the industrial era.
And the parliamentary system is designed to fit the needs of the commercial
elites so they don't have to give up any of their privileges. The legal
piracy in England is pragmatic with respect to this. And was transferred in
massive operations to the colonies where is was translated as a
privatization. In this way in Canada great wealth was accumulated which led
to strategic governmental positions propitious to maintain the businesses."

Let's call out for more to come and boost the encampment, and find ways to
increase our messaging about challenging the bourgeois Parliament, how we
have at our disposal the means to rewrite our economy, deal with the debt,
reform the money system and provide meaningful work for all by rebuilding
our broken communities and taking power for ourselves.

As we all know none of this will come from Parliament or from our new PM but
from a new people's sovereignty....!

COP negotiations in Bonn mean June is potentially a great month for People's
Assemblies, as part of the Climate Justice movement which have been called
by many. Let's keep spreading the word about what is happening in Parliament
Square via the idea of Democracy Village..

Mark

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: javier <castguer at mundo-r.com>
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:46:47 +0200
Subject: Re: [peopleincommon] Re: [project2012] Protesters set up camp
in Parliament Square -  Telegraph
To: Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com>

Es un hecho que la política liberal clásica estaba diseñada para proteger
los intereses de la clase burguesa emergente en la era industrial. Porque el
comercio es una actividad que afecta a todos, su liberalización constituyó
un avance con respecto a las rígidas determinaciones socio-económicas del
feudalismo. Pero los nada desdeñables métodos políticos que se conquistaron
para preservar la libertad de comercio no eran democráticos, sino
oligárquicos, porque no permitían el control del poder por la ciudadanía. A
pesar de la representación parlamentaria, buena parte de las posiciones de
verdadera importancia política, con mano en los devenires económicos del
propio país o de sus colonias, eran asignaciones a dedo por un poder ya
constituido, e irrevocable.



Dejando aparte también que la ciudadanía era entonces mucho más reducida que
ahora, por no haberse producido aún la conquista del sufragio universal, el
sistema parlamentario está diseñado a la medida de las élites comerciales
(ya bastante corruptas de por sí) para no ceder ni un ápice de sus
privilegios, y, a ser posible, incrementarlos. El pirateo “legal” de
Inglaterra es paradigmático al respecto. Y fue transferido a operaciones
masivas en las colonias de lo que traduzco como “privateo” (privateering)
hasta finales del siglo XIX, donde con la venia y bendiciones del gobierno
simplemente se tomaba posesión de las mercancías de otros países. O sea, se
robaba. De este modo, en Canadá por ejemplo, se amasaron grandes fortunas,
las cuales sin mayores dificultades llevaban a su vez a cargos
gubernamentales propicios para mantener el negocio.



Haber permitido a los partidos socialistas o laboristas la posibilidad de
presentarse a las elecciones no cambia el origen y naturaleza del
parlamentarismo. Tal vez ahora, que tanto en el Reino Unido como en Canadá
(con idéntico sistema) están en el impasse de un gobierno obligado a
pactarlo todo por estar en minoría parlamentaria, se procure un giro hacia
la democracia (elección distinta del gobierno y el parlamento, y control
ciudadano del poder). Sin embargo, no puede desdeñarse el peligro del
espectro de las listas proporcionales planeando sobre sus instituciones, que
amenaza la libertad colectiva todavía en mayor medida.



javier       castguer at mundo-r.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Barrett" <marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
To: <project2012 at googlegroups.com>; <peopleincommon at lists.riseup.net>;
<election-meltdown-activists-group at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: [peopleincommon] Re: [project2012] Protesters set up camp in
Parliament Square - Telegraph


Let's use the editorial to spread the word and get more people coming
down. A festival ideas and a meeting of the groups is what's necessary
but we also need to defend the right to protest and assemble. Where
better place to get everyone together, what with summer approaching.
The order may come to cut us down at any moment so let's network the
call to assemble for peace, justice and freedom for all! No publicity
is bad publicity, right?

> Subject: [project2012] Protesters set up camp in Parliament Square -
> Telegraph
>
> What's it's all about then, for the uninformed.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7730578/Protesters-set-up-camp-in
-Parliament-Square.html


>
> S
> we speak in the street.”
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