[Diggers350] Monbiot's conversion, now 'loves' glowing example of Fukushima
Simon Fairlie
chapter7 at tlio.org.uk
Sat Apr 2 15:17:43 BST 2011
> Yes I agree with Tony, Mobbsy's paper is very good..
>
> IMO Paul Mobbs' contribution has been the most enlightening to take
> the discussion on
> so far
>
> http://www.fraw.org.uk/news/index.shtml
> http://www.fraw.org.uk/mei/ecolonomics/01/ecolonomics-010-20110322.pdf
>
> T
>
> At 12:22 02/04/2011, Simon Fairlie wrote:
>> Could we calm down a bit please and have less hyperbole and rancour?
>>
>> I don't agree with George Monbiot's conclusions about nuclear
>> energy, but the maths needed doing, (or rather publicizing) and
>> the chart he cited in his article was illuminatinghttp://
>> blog.xkcd.com/2011/03/19/radiation-chart/
>>
>> I don't agree with Dice George that we need to reduce the
>> population by 99 per cent, but I do agree that it needs to be
>> reduced significantly.
>>
>> I agree with Lilia that it would be desirable for humans to grow
>> and source more of their food locally, as local peasant economies
>> use much less energy for everything than global capitalist
>> economies. But I am very sceptical that we could feed the entire
>> world's population that way sustainably. Most people in China are
>> fed on coal (for nitrogen fertilizer). The Amazon is full of
>> biodiversity, but it can't feed many people.
>>
>> I agree with Tony that population growth happens in traumatized
>> societies under attack by the power elite; but it also happens
>> because you can feed more people more easily when you produce
>> additional fertility through fossil fuels. There are probably now
>> more people in the world than can be fed decently by a society
>> weaning itself off fossil fuels.
>>
>> All these problems are intractable and there is no obvious
>> solution., so perhaps we could be a bit more tolerant of people
>> who have a different opinion from our own?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Simon Fairlie
>>
>>
>> On 2 Apr 2011, at 02:18, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com wrote:
>>
>>> I object strongly to Tony (or whoever)
>>> adding the line
>>> [(member in charge of comms in 'new TLIO' core group)]
>>> into a copyrighted email I sent to him on March 22, 2011 12:06 PM
>>> and making it appear that i am representing TLIO in this comment,
>>> and then publishing it on his diggers350 email list on March 26,
>>> 2011 12:37
>>> PM
>>>
>>> It is not OK for you to change my private email messages,
>>> and pass them off as written by me, and then to publish them.
>>>
>>> I may be mistaken, but I believe that this is what has happened.
>>>
>>> Also please note that the word 'exterminate' is Tony's not mine,
>>> the Chinese one baby per couple policy was not extermination.
>>>
>>> How would Tony apply his solution to London?
>>> There was mass starvation in China when Mao moved city people
>>> into the
>>> fields.
>>> ~
>>> ~ [g] ~ [george] ~ george at dicenews.com ~
>>> ~ 07970 378 572 ~ ~ ~
>>> ~ www.dicegeorge.com (c)2011. ~
>>> ~
>> From Lilia:
>> Dear DiceGeorge,
>> Can you please give me some reasons to demonstrate the arguments
>> behind your mass genocidal tendencies please as new representative
>> of the 'new TLIO'. You certainly don't represent my views as a
>> long-standing TLIO representative, who has also gone to European
>> conferences to represent TLIO where scientists who gave
>> consultancy to the EU on environmental issues were present.
>>
>> From my understanding, the planet does not necessarily have a
>> problem with humans and food consumption, if they are able to be
>> food-self-sufficient, which is not a problem when people are able
>> to grow their own food locally using biodiverse methods which are
>> in harmony with natural systems.
>>
>> In fact, humans when allowed to grow and source their own food
>> locally, can add massively to global ecological biodiversity, if
>> they are allowed. The Brazilian rainforest for example, is a
>> classic example of a massively biodiverse ecological system
>> created and sustained by human intervention.
>>
>> The nuclear industry instead in its various applications does not
>> add to global ecological biodiversity, and in relation to
>> supplying electricity to the world, is just one application,
>> amongst many. If people had access to cheap affordable solar
>> panels, they could provide their own electricity for themselves
>> for their own basic needs. This is why the UK national grid is in
>> fact giving support for people to supply their own electricity to
>> themselves and to sell the electricity back to the grid to re-
>> supply to other consumers in order to secure more sustainable long-
>> term electricity use in the UK. There are a huge range of
>> renewable sustainable non-carbon based alternatives to consumers
>> to choose from, to supply themselves with electricity for their
>> day to day needs. Therefore for someone like George Monbiot to
>> support nuclear energy when he is not a qualified scientist
>> specialising in energy consultancy, and to do advertising on
>> behalf of the nuclear industry, means that his actions are
>> therefore negligent, as the scientific advisor Dr. Chris Busby who
>> is a qualified scientific expert on nuclear energy to the EU has
>> in fact stated.
>>
>> As you have stated that you instead support genocide of 95% of the
>> world's population as representative of the 'new TLIO' can you
>> also state your scientific backing for your argument, since
>> normally my understanding of people who have genocidal tendencies,
>> is that they should be put in hospitals for the clinically insane.
>>
>> Otherwise can you let me know, is the 'new TlIO' like new labour,
>> and the new conservatives where proposing to go to war against
>> people in other countries is based on a profit motive, based on
>> financial gain from supporting companies that profit from war, and
>> conflict, otherwise known as supporting war criminals, and this is
>> the only reason that they aim to support mass genocide against
>> others, for their own short-term profit.
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Tony Gosling" <tony at cultureshop.org.uk >
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:37 PM
>>> To: "Massimo" < diggers350 at yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: fwd: [Diggers350] Monbiot's conversion, now 'loves' glowing
>>> example of Fukushima
>>>
>>>> George Monbiot is getting slagged off by greens for doing the
>>>> maths!
>>>> The only longterm solution is reduction of human
>>>> population to less than 1% of what it is now - will people vote
>>>> for that?
>>>> Or, Tony, what's your solution to our addiction to power and
>>>> population
>>>> growth?
>>>>
>>>> dicegeorge (member in charge of comms in 'new TLIO' core group)
>>>> ~
>>>> ~ [g] ~ [george] ~ george at dicenews.com ~
>>>> ~ 07970 378 572 ~ ~ ~
>>>> ~ www.dicegeorge.com (c) 2011. ~
>>>> ~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Worrying misuse of the word 'only' in line 2
>>>> george. Population growth happens in traumatised
>>>> unequal societies under attack by the power elite.]
>>>> [Solution: work locally, move to self-sufficient
>>>> post industrial society, renationalise railways &
>>>> utilities, redistribute land, use clean coal and way less energy
>>>> generally]
>>>> [- surely a better move than exterminating 99% of
>>>> the world's population (useless eaters) which the power elite
>>>> want? -
>>>> Tony]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Zardoz" <tony at cultureshop.org.uk >
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:41 AM
>>>> To: < Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Subject: [Diggers350] Monbiot's conversion, now
>>>> 'loves' glowing example of Fukushima
>>>>
>>>>> Our founder turned one trick climate pony -
>>>>> George scribbles like a Zombie for the war and
>>>>> money control Western power elite in the
>>>>> Guardian today. These fascists require positive
>>>>> press from fake environ-mentalists to put their
>>>>> evil plans back on track since the developing Fukushima disaster.
>>>>> No mention does Monbiot make of the need for
>>>>> crippling public subsidy - motivation of entire
>>>>> industry being for plutonium for weapons -
>>>>> deadly legacy for hundreds of thousands of years
>>>>> - nor of last week's accident at Oldbury nuke station in
>>>>> Gloucestershire.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither will you find in the Guardian today
>>>>> anything that Jeremy Corbyn, John MacDonald or
>>>>> dennis Skinner said in yesterday's commons 'debate' on Libya.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oldbury reactor failure leads to 'mildly' radioactive steam
>>>>> release
>>>>> http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/news/Concern-plumes-
>>>>> steam-Oldbury-nuclear-station/article-3348796-detail/article.html
>>>>> Reactor 2 was automatically and safely shut down
>>>>> following an electrical problem on conventional
>>>>> plant in the site's turbine hall.
>>>>> "Post trip cooling on Reactor 2 has commenced
>>>>> successfully. Investigations into the cause of this event are
>>>>> ongoing."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power
>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/21/pro-nuclear-
>>>>> japan-fukushima
>>>>> Japan's disaster would weigh more heavily if
>>>>> there were less harmful alternatives. Atomic
>>>>> power is part of the mix up in my brain
>>>>>
>>>>> Want some real news and not this City of London
>>>>> financed hypnotic pseudo-left tripe?
>>>>> http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/
>>>>> http://www.whatreallyhapened.com
>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
>>>>> http://www.antiwar.com
>>>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Diggers350 at yahoogroups.com , Tony Gosling <tony at ...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A cloud of nuclear mistrust spreads around the world
>>>>>> March 16, 2011
>>>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/a-cloud-of-
>>>>>> nuclear-mistrust-spreads-around-the-world-2242988.html
>>>>>> http://thetruthiswhere.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/a-cloud-of-
>>>>>> nuclear-mistrust-spreads-around-the-world/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After decades of lies, nuclear reassurances now fall on deaf ears
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Special report by Michael McCarthy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is unprecedented: four atomic reactors in dire
>>>>>> trouble at once, three threatening meltdown from
>>>>>> overheating, and a fourth hit by a fire in its
>>>>>> storage pond for radioactive spent fuel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All day yesterday, dire reports continued to
>>>>>> circulate about the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear
>>>>>> plant, faced with disaster after Japan's tsunami
>>>>>> knocked out its cooling systems. Some turned out
>>>>>> to be false: for example, a rumour, disseminated
>>>>>> by text message, that radiation from the plant
>>>>>> had been spreading across Asia. Others were true:
>>>>>> that radiation at about 20 times normal levels
>>>>>> had been detected in Tokyo; that Chinese airlines
>>>>>> had cancelled flights to the Japanese capital;
>>>>>> that Austria had moved it embassy from Tokyo to
>>>>>> Osaka; that a 24-hour general store in Tokyo's
>>>>>> Roppongi district had sold out of radios, torches, candles and
>>>>>> sleeping
>>>>>> bags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But perhaps the most alarming thing was that
>>>>>> although Naoto Kan, Japan's Prime Minister, once
>>>>>> again appealed for calm, there are many - in
>>>>>> Japan and beyond - who are no longer prepared to be reassured.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The scale of the alarm is the remarkable thing:
>>>>>> how it has gone round the world (Angela Merkel
>>>>>> has imposed a moratorium on nuclear energy; in
>>>>>> France, there are calls for a referendum); how
>>>>>> it's even displaced the terrible story of Japan's
>>>>>> tsunami itself from the front-page headlines. But
>>>>>> then, public alarm about nuclear safety, as the
>>>>>> Fukushima emergency proves, is very easy to raise
>>>>>> - and, as the Japanese authorities are now discovering, very
>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>> calm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason is an industry which from its
>>>>>> inception, more than half a century ago, has
>>>>>> taken secrecy to be its watchword; and once that
>>>>>> happens, cover-ups and downright lies often
>>>>>> follow close behind. The sense of crisis
>>>>>> surrounding Japan's stricken nuclear reactors is
>>>>>> exacerbated a hundredfold by the fact that, in an
>>>>>> emergency, public trust in the promoters of
>>>>>> atomic power is virtually non-existent. On too
>>>>>> many occasions in Britain, in America, in Russia,
>>>>>> in Japan - pick your country - people have not
>>>>>> been told the truth (and have frequently been
>>>>>> told nothing at all) about nuclear misadventures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To understand the mania for secrecy, we have to
>>>>>> go back to nuclear power's origins. This was not
>>>>>> a technology dreamt up as a replacement for
>>>>>> coal-fired power stations; this is a military
>>>>>> technology, conceived in a life-or-death
>>>>>> struggle, which has been modified for civilian
>>>>>> purposes. At its heart is the nuclear chain
>>>>>> reaction, the self-sustaining atom-splitting
>>>>>> process ("fission") which occurs when enough
>>>>>> highly radioactive material is brought together,
>>>>>> and which produces other radioactive elements
>>>>>> ("fission products"), and a release of energy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When it was first achieved by the physicists
>>>>>> Enrico Fermi and Leo Szilard, in an atomic "pile"
>>>>>> built in a squash court of the University of
>>>>>> Chicago in December 1942, it merely produced
>>>>>> heat; but all those involved understood that if
>>>>>> it could be speeded up, it would produce the
>>>>>> biggest explosive power ever known. And so was
>>>>>> born the Manhattan Project, the US undertaking to
>>>>>> build the atom bomb which was, while it lasted, history's
>>>>>> biggest secret.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secrecy came with nuclear energy, like a
>>>>>> birthmark, and, indeed, for 10 years after the
>>>>>> first A-bomb was dropped on Hiroshima in August
>>>>>> 1945, it remained a covert military technology,
>>>>>> although first the Russians, and then the
>>>>>> British, followed the Americans in developing it.
>>>>>> Britain built a pair of atomic reactors at
>>>>>> Windscale on the Cumbrian coast, which produced
>>>>>> (as a fission product) plutonium, the material
>>>>>> used in the first British nuclear weapon. That
>>>>>> was exploded off the coast of Australia in 1952.
>>>>>> And it was in one of these reactors that the
>>>>>> world's first really serious nuclear accident
>>>>>> occurred: the Windscale fire of October 1957. The
>>>>>> reactor's core, made of graphite, caught light,
>>>>>> melted and burned substantial amounts of the
>>>>>> uranium fuel, and released large amounts of
>>>>>> radioactivity. It was the most serious nuclear
>>>>>> calamity until Chernobyl nearly 30 years later,
>>>>>> but the British government did all it could to
>>>>>> minimise its significance, trying at first to
>>>>>> keep it a complete secret (the local fire brigade
>>>>>> was not notified for 24 hours) and keeping the
>>>>>> official report confidential until 1988.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was to be the first of many such nuclear
>>>>>> alarms and cover-ups at Windscale. In 1976, for
>>>>>> example, the secrecy surrounding a major leak of
>>>>>> radioactive water infuriated the then Technology
>>>>>> Minister, Tony Benn, who supported nuclear power,
>>>>>> when he learnt of it. But similar cover-ups were
>>>>>> happening all around the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the US atomic weapons plant at Rocky Flats,
>>>>>> Colorado, there were numerous mishaps involving
>>>>>> radioactive material which were kept secret over
>>>>>> four decades, from the 1950s to the 1980s. In
>>>>>> Russia, the province of Chelyabinsk, just east of
>>>>>> the Urals, housed a major atomic weapons complex,
>>>>>> which was the site of three major nuclear
>>>>>> disasters: radioactive waste dumping and the
>>>>>> explosion of a waste containment unit in the
>>>>>> 1950s, and a vast escape of radioactive dust in
>>>>>> 1967. It is estimated that about half a million
>>>>>> people in the region were irradiated in one or
>>>>>> more of the incidents, exposing them to as much
>>>>>> as 20 times the radiation suffered by the
>>>>>> Chernobyl victims. None of which, of course, was
>>>>>> disclosed at the time. Chelyabinsk is sometimes
>>>>>> referred to now as "the most polluted place on the planet".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we turn to Japan, we find an identical
>>>>>> culture of nuclear cover-up and lies. Of
>>>>>> particular concern has been the Tokyo Electric
>>>>>> Power Company (Tepco), Asia's biggest utility,
>>>>>> which just happens to be the owner and operator
>>>>>> of the stricken reactors at Fukushima.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tepco has a truly rotten record in telling the
>>>>>> truth. In 2002, its chairman and a group of
>>>>>> senior executives had to resign after the
>>>>>> Japanese government disclosed they had covered up
>>>>>> a large series of cracks and other damage to
>>>>>> reactors, and in 2006 the company admitted it had
>>>>>> been falsifying data about coolant materials in
>>>>>> its plants over a long period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last night it was reported that the International
>>>>>> Atomic Energy Agency warned Japan more than two
>>>>>> years ago that strong earthquakes would pose
>>>>>> "serious problems", according to a Wikileaks US
>>>>>> embassy cable published by The Daily Telegraph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even Chernobyl, the world's most publicised
>>>>>> nuclear accident, was at first hidden from the
>>>>>> world by what was then the Soviet Union, and
>>>>>> might have remained hidden had its plume of
>>>>>> escaping radioactivity not been detected by scientists in Sweden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why do they do it? Why does the instinct to
>>>>>> hide everything persist, even now, when the major
>>>>>> role of nuclear energy has decisively shifted
>>>>>> from the military to the civil sector? Perhaps it
>>>>>> is because there is an instinctive and indeed
>>>>>> understandable fear among the public about
>>>>>> nuclear energy itself, about this technology
>>>>>> which, once its splits its atoms, releases deadly forces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The nuclear industry is terrified of losing
>>>>>> public support, for the simple reason that it has
>>>>>> always needed public money to fund it. It is not,
>>>>>> even now, a sector which can stand on its own two
>>>>>> feet economically. So when it finds it has a
>>>>>> problem, its first reaction is to hide it, and
>>>>>> its second reaction is to tell lies about it. But
>>>>>> the truth comes out in the end, and then the
>>>>>> public trusts the industry even less than it
>>>>>> might have done, had it admitted the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't have to be like this. A quarter of a
>>>>>> century ago, Britain's nuclear industry acquired
>>>>>> a leader who for a few years transformed its
>>>>>> public image: Christopher Harding. He was an open
>>>>>> and honest man who thought that the paranoia and
>>>>>> secrecy surrounding nuclear power should be swept away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When he became chairman of British Nuclear Fuels,
>>>>>> which ran the Windscale plant, he decided on a
>>>>>> new order of things. He renamed it Sellafield,
>>>>>> and, to general astonishment, decreed that
>>>>>> instead of sullenly turning its back to the
>>>>>> public, it should welcome them with open arms. He
>>>>>> did the unthinkable: he opened a visitor centre!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harding died young in 1999, but he was, in his
>>>>>> lifetime an exceptional man: not only for his
>>>>>> charm and his personal kindness - he was revered
>>>>>> by Sellafield employees - but for his vision of a
>>>>>> nuclear industry which would be better off
>>>>>> dealing with its problems through transparency
>>>>>> and honesty, rather than through obfuscation and
>>>>>> deceit. But he was, unfortunately, the exception who proved
>>>>>> the rule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rest of the nuclear industry has been
>>>>>> dissembling for so long, and caught out in its
>>>>>> lies so often, that the chance for trust may have
>>>>>> passed. Even if, as I suspect, the Japanese
>>>>>> government is trying to be reasonably up front
>>>>>> about the problems at Fukushima, it is by no
>>>>>> means certain that anything it says about the
>>>>>> nuclear part of their nation's catastrophe will be believed.
>>>>>> +44 (0)7786 952037
>>>>>> http://tonygosling.blip.tv/
>>>>>> http://www.thisweek.org.uk/
>>>>>> http://www.911forum.org.uk/
>>>>>> "Capitalism is institutionalised bribery."
>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>> www.abolishwar.org.uk
>>>>>> < http://www.elementary.org.uk > www.elementary.org.uk
>>>>>> www.public-interest.co.uk
>>>>>> www.radio4all.net/index.php/series/Bristol+Broadband+Co-operative
>>>>>> < http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf > http://
>>>>>> utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic
>>>>>> poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl
>>>>>> Jung
>>>>>> < https://217.72.179.7/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/ >
>>>>>> https://217.72.179.7/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Diggers350 - an e-mail discussion/information-share list for
>>>> campaigners
>>>> and members of THE LAND IS OURS landrights network based in the UK
>>>> http://www.tlio.org.uk
>>>>
>>>> The list was originally concerned with the 350th anniversary of The
>>>> Diggers (& still is concerned with their history). The Diggers
>>>> appeared at
>>>> the end of the English Civil war with a noble mission to make
>>>> the earth 'a
>>>> common treasury for all'. In the spring of 1999 there were
>>>> celebrations to
>>>> remember the Diggers vision and their contribution.
>>>>
>>>> TASH FROM THE HILL
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWk9rRJsk5I
>>>>
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>>>> so.
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>>>> by hand
>>>> is usually quicker than using a strimmer, and there is no noise,
>>>> vibration
>>>> or pollution. Mowing an acre of grass with a scythe is probably
>>>> less
>>>> hassle than maintaining and using a motor scythe. Once you have
>>>> learnt how
>>>> to sharpen and use an Austrian scythe properly, mowing a meadow
>>>> by hand
>>>> becomes a joy, rather than a struggle. http://
>>>> www.thescytheshop.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> SOCIAL JUSTICE FILMS AND DVDS
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>>>> small
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>>>> at a sensible price. http://www.cultureshop.org
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>>>>
>>>> Brendan Boal from the Climate Camp would like me to point out that
>>>> Bilderberg.org is my private web site and as such is not
>>>> officially part
>>>> of The Land Is Ours.
>>>> Neither is this web site:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Diggers350 - an e-mail discussion/information-share list for
>>> campaigners and members of THE LAND IS OURS landrights network
>>> based in the UK http://www.tlio.org.uk
>>>
>>> The list was originally concerned with the 350th anniversary of
>>> The Diggers (& still is concerned with their history). The
>>> Diggers appeared at the end of the English Civil war with a noble
>>> mission to make the earth 'a common treasury for all'. In the
>>> spring of 1999 there were celebrations to remember the Diggers
>>> vision and their contribution.
>>>
>>> TASH FROM THE HILL
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWk9rRJsk5I
>>>
>>> THE LAND MAGAZINE
>>> Simon Fairlie still produces The Land magazine every 6 months or so.
>>> Subsription is £18 (£15 unwaged) or £4 for a single edition
>>> Contributions are welcome http://www.thelandmagazine.org.uk/
>>>
>>> THE SCYTHE SHOP (advertisement)
>>> There is a revival of scything in the UK. Scything summer growth
>>> by hand is usually quicker than using a strimmer, and there is no
>>> noise, vibration or pollution. Mowing an acre of grass with a
>>> scythe is probably less hassle than maintaining and using a motor
>>> scythe. Once you have learnt how to sharpen and use an Austrian
>>> scythe properly, mowing a meadow by hand becomes a joy, rather
>>> than a struggle. http://www.thescytheshop.co.uk/
>>>
>>> SOCIAL JUSTICE FILMS AND DVDS
>>> Today, many of the best TV programmes are broadcast in the wee
>>> small hours. Some outstanding films don't make it onto TV at all!
>>> You need miss out no longer. At CultureShop.org you can buy
>>> historic independent media at a sensible price. http://
>>> www.cultureshop.org
>>>
>>> You can find out more about the Diggers and see illustrations at:
>>> http://www.bilderberg.org/land/
>>>
>>> Brendan Boal from the Climate Camp would like me to point out
>>> that Bilderberg.org is my private web site and as such is not
>>> officially part of The Land Is Ours.
>>> Neither is this web site: http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/
>>> memos.htmlYahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
> "The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which
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> https://217.72.179.7/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/
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