In MWe, 2,667 tidal turbines equals one Hinkley C

Sat Sep 24 23:59:07 BST 2016

'Hinkley 2560MWe on average, 0.96MWe on average per tidal rig.
Consequently you need (2560/.96) 2,667 tidal turbines to create the same power.'

Great reply Paul
But...
What's the bottom line? Excluding the influence of the
nuclear weapons lobby..

ie. how does cost of 2,667 tidal energy rigs compare to
Hinkley?
Assuming this £37bn figure for Hinkley C is correct 

B-)

Estimated cost of Hinkley Point C nuclear plant rises to
£37bn
Critics point to volatility of scheme but energy department
says price ‘will not affect bill payers’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/07/hinkley-point-c-nuclear-plant-costs-up-to-37bn

cheers,

Tony

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> On Fri, 16/9/16, Paul Mobbs mobbsey at gn.apc.org
> [Diggers350] <Diggers350-noreply at yahoogroups.com>
> wrote:
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>  Subject: Re: [Diggers350] Tidal energy debut... and Trident
> subs/bombs
>  To: diggers350 at yahoogroups.com
>  Cc: "Tony Gosling" <tony at cultureshop.org.uk>
>  Date: Friday, 16 September, 2016, 23:05
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>        On Fri, 2016-09-16 at 01:44
> +0100, Tony Gosling
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>  tony at cultureshop.org.uk
> [Diggers350] wrote:
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>  > Fifty of these turbines and you have a Hinkley C
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>  Sorry, it's not that simple.
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>  The capacity factor (how much of the time it generates 
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>  the power it says) of nuclear is about 80%. So Hinkley
>  C's
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>  3,200MWe capacity represents about 2560MWe on average.
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>  The capacity factor of tidal steam turbines is about 60%,
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>  so at 1.6MWe per turbine that's 0.96MWe on average.
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>  Consequently you need (2560/.96) 2,667 tidal turbines to
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>  create the same power.
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>  
>  That's still do-able, but it's about two and a half
>  times
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>  what you stated.
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>  Parts of the Inner Hebrides, St. George's Channel and
>  the 
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>  English Channel also have good tidal stream potential.
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>  ...and still probably cheaper than new nuclear!
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>  HOWEVER,
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>  I don't think that's the Government's only
>  concern 
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>  here.
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>  The existence of a large civil nuclear industry heavily 
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>  subsidizes the costs of the Ministry of Defence in 
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>  operating nuclear submarines and producing nuclear 
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>  weapons.
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>  Civil nuclear enables technicians to be trained at 
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>  universities, uranium fuel and other components 
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>  manufactured at UK plants, and radioactive waste to be 
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>  processed/handled more easily and cheaply, than if the 
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>  MoD had to pay for the entire infrastructure costs of 
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>  Trident and other nuclear-related programmes.
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>  At present the nuclear industry in Britain has about
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>  20 years to live -- then it's just looking after
>  the 
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>  waste. Without the skills and facilities to support
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>  nuclear power, Britain's "nuclear deterrent"
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