[Diggers350] New Diggers list, new address is diggers350 at gn.apc.org

Tony Gosling tony at cultureshop.org.uk
Mon Sep 28 22:59:26 BST 2020

Hi all,

Sorry for all the obvious confusion for Alison etc
But glorious Greenet (remember them?) have JUST 
managed to get our new archived list working.

As you may know Yahoo stopped archiving our 
Diggers messages at the end of last year
We managed to prize them out of evil verizon, 
preserve then process that archive database, amazingly
and after lots of time and effort behind the 
scenes both list and archives seem to be working as of Saturday

The new address to post to the new list is 
<mailto:diggers350 at gn.apc.org>diggers350 at gn.apc.org. 
so please make a note of that

the new archive is here which I want to be public 
so internet lurkers will find us - still working on that

and list info is here

Once we're all sure its working I'll turn off and 
archive the old google and yahoo lists to avoid further confusion

Amazingly these gn archived messages go right 
back to the 1999 occupation of St George's Hill
= which we're gonna do again next spring despite 
the residents association threatening/promising us we never would back in 1999

Sorry for all the probs while we were silently 
beavering away, not assuming we'd ever get there !!


07786 952037

At 19:52 28/09/2020, 'Ian' 
ian.stardust at freedomnetwork.org.uk [Diggers350] wrote:
>Yes, I've just been looking and Tony has created 
>a tangle by posting from one list into an
>other. If like me, you have been on this list a 
>long time, you will be subscribed to the list
>diggers350 at yahoogroups.com, not 
>diggers350 at gn.apc.org, so that is the list you must
>unsubscribe from.
>On 27 Sep 2020 at 14:21, Alison Banville via Diggers35 wrote:
>Lord, I've unsubscribed multiple times, asked Gosling personally to
>unsubscribe me when the emails kept coming, to which he responded by
>telling me to click unsubscribe, and I've 
>informed him I'm still getting these
>damn emails. He really seems to be lacking the basic integrity needed to run
>an email list.
>On Saturday, 26 September 2020, 01:15:15 BST, 
>Tony Gosling <tony at cultureshop.org.uk>
>Queen to receive government
>`bailout´ to top up income after
>Crown Estate hit by economic
>`This royal bailout will be tough to stomach for
>people who love the Queen but have lost their
>jobs,´ says Tax Justice UK
>Adam Forrest at adamtomforrest 1 day ago 18 comments
>Boris Johnson´s government has confirmed it will 
>top up the Queen´s income following a
>significant slump in the Crown Estate´s revenue 
>during the coronavirus crisis.
>The royal family takes in rental receipts from 
>shops in London´s Regent Street, alongside
>malls and retail parks around the country - but 
>the value of its portfolio has fallen by more
>than £500m since the pandemic hit.
>The Treasury said it would provide the estate 
>with extra money to meet any shortfall in profits
>and make sure the Queen´s sovereign grant remains at its current level.
>"In the event of a reduction in the Crown 
>Estate´s profits, the sovereign grant is set at the
>same level as the previous year," a spokesperson said told The Independent.
>"The revenue from the Crown Estate helps pay for 
>our vital public services - over the last 10
>years it has returned a total of £2.8bn to the 
>Exchequer. The sovereign grant funds the
>official business of the monarchy, and does not 
>provide a private income to any member of
>the royal family."
>More details on the next sovereign grant are 
>expected to be set out on Friday - but legislation
>governing the formula prevents the overall 
>amount given to the Queen from ever being
>allowed to fall.
>Graham Smith, of the anti-monarchy campaign 
>group Republic, described it as a "golden
>ratchet", adding: "Once the grant goes up it can 
>never come down, and the taxpayer loses
>Robert Palmer, the head of Tax Justice UK, 
>added: "This royal bailout will be tough to
>stomach for people who love the Queen but have 
>lost their jobs and businesses during the
>Any profits made by the Crown Estate are passed 
>to the Treasury which, in turn, hands 25
>per cent of the profits back to the Queen through the sovereign grant.
>However, the Crown Estate announced last week a 
>fall in the value of its rental portfolio by
>£55m to £13.4bn - a drop of 1.2 per cent.
>An agreement with the Treasury means the estate 
>has begun making "staggered" revenue
>payments to the government.
>Dan Labbad, the Crown Estate´s chief executive, 
>said: "The current economic and market
>disruption has led us to take the precaution, 
>with the agreement of the Treasury, of
>implementing a staged process for the payment of 
>the whole of our net revenue profit."
>NB please do reply with remove as the subject or 
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>emails - thanks
>"And I think, in the end, that is the best 
>definition of journalism I have heard; to challenge
>authority - all authority - especially so when 
>governments and politicians take us to war, when
>they have decided that they will kill and others will die. "
>--Robert Fisk
>'From South America, where payment must be made with
>subtlety, the Bormann organization has made a substantial
>contribution. It has drawn many of the brightest Jewish
>businessmen into a participatory role in the development of many
>of its corporations, and many of these Jews share their prosperity
>most generously with Israel. If their proposals are sound, they are
>even provided with a specially dispensed venture capital fund. I
>spoke with one Jewish businessmen in Hartford, Connecticut. He
>had arrived there quite unknown several years before our
>conversation, but with Bormann money as his leverage. Today he
>is more than a millionaire, a quiet leader in the community with a
>certain share of his profits earmarked as always for his venture
>capital benefactors. This has taken place in many other instances
>across America and demonstrates how Bormann´s people
>operate in the contemporary commercial world, in contrast to the
>fanciful nonsense with which Nazis are described in so much
>So much emphasis is placed on select Jewish participation in
>Bormann companies that when Adolf Eichmann was seized and
>taken to Tel Aviv to stand trial, it produced a shock wave in the
>Jewish and German communities of Buenos Aires. Jewish
>leaders informed the Israeli authorities in no uncertain terms that
>this must never happen again because a repetition would
>permanently rupture relations with the Germans of Latin America,
>as well as with the Bormann organization, and cut off the flow of
>Jewish money to Israel. It never happened again, and the pursuit
>of Bormann quieted down at the request of these Jewish leaders.
>He is residing in an Argentinian safe haven, protected by the most
>efficient German infrastructure in history as well as by all those
>whose prosperity depends on his well-being.'
>http ://spitfirelist.com/books/martin-bormann-nazi-in-exile/
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