£15k cost to build 1 home & St Paul's eviction a 'sad day
Zardoz
tony at cultureshop.org.uk
Tue Feb 28 11:50:05 GMT 2012
That fifreen k figure to build a house seems far-fetched but factors OUT all the various rackets involved in housebuilding such as inflated land costs, developer cartels, planning cartels, 'the horrible cheating that is buying and selling' etc etc. It simply looks at the cost of making bricks in man-hours. RATHER than the cost to buy bricks. In fact the whole thing is worked out that way.
Quite an important bit of work and it would be good to know who actually did those blue sky calculations.
Shame on the crooked old CofE BTW, dragging Christ's good name with the occupiers through the streets of London today, all the more reason to be a chapel-man ;-)
T
St Paul's eviction a 'sad day'
(UKPA) 35 minutes ago
A former senior figure at St Paul's has attacked the eviction of anti-capitalist protesters from the steps of the cathedral as a "terrible" sight and a "sad day" for the Church of England.
Giles Fraser, who resigned as canon chancellor of St Paul's rather than see the protesters evicted by force, spoke of his dismay after seeing the camp cleared more than four months after the occupation began. He said: "Riot police clearing the steps of St Paul's Cathedral was a terrible sight. This is a sad day for the Church."
Dr Fraser's remarks come after he tweeted that he was "really proud" of the way Occupy protesters had conducted themselves during the eviction. Bailiffs and police arrived at the site early on Tuesday morning, five days after Occupy London was refused permission by the Court of Appeal to challenge orders evicting protesters.
Stuart Fraser, policy chairman of the City of London Corporation, said: "It is regrettable that it had to come to the need for removal but the High Court judgment speaks for itself. The site has now been cleared and the area is undergoing a deep clean."
The City of London Corporation called on campers to remove their tents voluntarily. Although some remained on site when police arrived, many began dismantling the equipment before bailiffs moved in.
Meanwhile, a group of protesters remained defiant, waving flags and banging tambourines on top of a makeshift wooden structure facing the cathedral. The platform was eventually dismantled by bailiffs after police in riot gear surrounded it.
Campaigners were also cleared from the steps of the cathedral. An Occupy London spokesman said its School of Ideas in a disused school building in Islington, north London, had also been evicted.
Supporter Kai Wargalla, a 27-year-old student from Germany who has been camping at St Paul's since the occupation began on October 15, said: "It's really sad but I think we can be proud of what we've achieved. Our community is being attacked here, but we're going to reconvene and come back stronger."
St Paul's Cathedral said in a statement: "In the past few months, we have all been made to re-examine important issues about social and economic justice and the role the cathedral can play. We regret the camp had to be removed by bailiffs but we are fully committed to continuing to promote these issues through our worship, teaching and Institute.
"The cathedral is open and set aside for prayer and reflection. The cathedral is accessible to everyone. The area currently cordoned off is for essential repairs to damaged paving. Clergy are available throughout the day for pastoral care and support."
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx1nPu3k
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>
> Real cost of housing: The £1.00 a week home?
>
> http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15296
> To give an example of how corrupt banking, taxes,
> usury (the charging of interest on money)
> actually is, here's a simplified look at how much our homes should cost.
>
> 3 bricklayers working 40 hours a week for 3 weeks
> = (360) man hours to build in brick and block a 6
> bed roomed house. Carpentry first and second fix,
> 2 men working 40 hours a week for 3 week = (240)
> man hours. As its new build, plumbing and
> electrics 4 men working one week 40 hours = (160)
> man hours. Roof tiles felt and lath 2 men working
> an 8 hour day working for 2 days = (32) man
> hours. Put a good slate roof on and it will last
> 200 years. Many homes (buildings) last for
> hundreds of years if built with care and quality
> materials and skilled workers.
>
> 360
>
> 240
>
> 160
>
> 032
>
> That's 792 man hours of labour, 19 weeks at 40 hours for the actual building.
>
> So applying the same principles to building
> materials, with modern technology used
> diligently, for simplicity sake 708 hours
>
> 708 hours plus 792 hours.
>
> 1500 man hours total to build a 6 bed roomed house.
>
> £10.00 per hour as an example to keep it simple
> and easier to understand. But really it's about
> the amount of work we put into the community. And
> how usury devalues our spending power, of
> whatever currency, paper, metal, credit (numbers
> on a computer screen, your bank account) it is applied to.
>
> If you needed to borrow money say £15,000 (the
> total in this case) as you pay no interest
> (usury) you pay back just the £15,000 if you do
> that over 50 years. = >6 pounds a week. Or even
> better pay, one pound a week to start, gradually
> pay more as you get you new work of the ground
> then after 25 years start to decrease the
> payments back so as to meet the original sum.
>
> If after 50 years you can't repay any remaining
> money back due to unforeseen circumstances and
> I'm sure you should get some help from your
> family and local community and there would not be
> much to pay back at that point in time, because
> we should have shared our work and wealth. In
> fact with the help of our family, friends and
> local community this would not be difficult at
> any time. And never the less All Debts Forgiven.
>
> Some might say that its 6 pounds a week and not
> one pound. But remember that these homes can last
> many generations for only (1500 man hours)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Example:
>
> Six bed roomed detached house in surrey built in
> the 1970's on a small! plot in suburbia.
>
> http://www.findaproperty.com/displayprop.aspx?edid=00&salerent=0&pid=6 52320
>
> (Probably an expired link now as it was written in 2007)
>
> £899,950
>
> 2007 bank rate rise to 5.5%.This can change any time the bank decides.
>
> http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/mortgages/article.html?in_article_id=4201
> 99&in_page_id=8
>
>
>
> Loan repayment calculator
>
> MONTHLY PAYMENT This calculator shows what your
> monthly payments would be for a given loan, where
> interest is compounded monthly. Payment protection insurance is excluded.
>
> http://img.thisismoney.co.uk/calculators/calcLoanPay.html
>
> Amount borrowed
>
> e.g. 5000, no commas
>
> Term Months Years 50 years
>
> Interest rate % 5.5%
>
> (Actual interest rate & not the APR) %
>
> RESULT Calculate
>
>
>
> Total monthly payment £ 4408.36 < £ 1000.0 per
> week (more than one thousand per week)
>
> Total charge for credit £ 1745068.6
>
> Total repayment £ 2645018.6
>
>
>
> £2 million 6 hundred and 45 thousand, 18 pounds 6p
>
> For something (your home and shelter) 6 men could
> build in 3 weeks and six men in 3 weeks make the materials.
>
>
>
> How Much Can I Borrow?
> http://www.mortgagesorter.co.uk/mortgages_amount_you_can_borrow.html
>
> Please fill in the following details so we can
> calculate the mortgage loan value you should be able to borrow:
>
> Annual Income of Applicant
>
> Enter any amount in '000s
>
> £ 260,000 thousand per year or £125 pounds per hour based on a 40 hour week
>
> Annual bonus/commission of Applicant
>
> Enter any amount in '000s OR leave blank
>
> £
>
>
>
> You are entitled to borrow up to £ 910,000
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Example only:
>
> Monitoring poverty and social exclusion in Wales
> 2007Where once child poverty in Wales exceeded
> the UK average,.... At all ages, at least a third
> of part-time employees are paid less than £6.50 per hour. ...
>
> http://www.jrf.org.uk/Knowledge/findings/socialpolicy/2096.asp
>
>
>
> In the UK it would need at the moment (2007)Ten
> average earners to get together and work about
> 25/30 years of there life to achieve the same.
>
> 1500 hours as opposed to 500000 hours. 333.3r
> times more. In this case as far as housing goes and "this example only".
>
>
>
> We work 333 days and benefit 1 DAY.
>
>
>
> Also we pay Tax, income tax V.A.T. and many more
> various taxes. So for "example only" if we pay about 50% in taxes.
>
> (And we continue to pay these various taxes when
> we think we own our homes after the mortgage has been paid off)
>
>
>
> We are working 666 days and only benefit 1 DAY.
>
>
>
> Allowing for weekends and so called holidays 222 days worked per year that's
>
> Three years to benefit ONE day.
>
> Very large scale corrupt slight of hand
> extortion, maintained by the "benefits system"
> enough to fool most of the people and just enough
> to get by on for most people (for now)
>
>
>
> Titles purposely designed to deceive.
>
> National Economy - a national economy in the
> western world is totally wasteful; where most
> products are consumed and thrown away as quickly
> as possible and are actually manufactured to be
> waste within a very short space of time; so a
> National Economy is the opposite of its definition.
>
>
>
> Deuteronomy:
>
> 23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy
> brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury
> of any thing that is lent upon usury:
>
>
>
> FREE LAND AT NO COST. Also with Torah LAW, land
> should be shared out and not owned.
>
>
>
>
>
> Green, Sustainable
>
> Economics a Phase of Divine Law
>
>
>
> Excerpt only:
>
> When Israel obtained the promised land, it was
> divided as fairly as possible so that EVERY
> family should receive its portion. The land was
> free from debt and the only tax was a tenth part
> of the fruit of the soil, the tithe being the
> inheritance of the Levites, who, being engaged in
> work of national importance, had no land.
>
>
>
> The land was inherited, free of death duties,
> from generation to generation. It had no money
> value, and must not be sold for ever. The
> possessors of the land were regarded, not as the
> owners (for the land was God's, Leviticus 25:23), but as God's guests.
>
>
>
> Should circumstances compel, it was permitted to
> sell the land, but the price should be adjusted
> according to the number of years to the Jubilee.
> The price was not for the land itself, but for
> its produce. In the fiftieth, the Year of
> Jubilee, every family must return to its
> inheritance. This great event must take place on
> the 10th day of the 7th month, the Day of
> Atonement, on which all the people made
> confession of their sins; it was a day for
> national repentance. Thus were closely related
> the economic and religious life of the nation. It
> was not a day of bondage, but a day of freedom, a day of new beginnings.
>
>
>
> "And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and
> proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all
> the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee
> unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his
> possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family." (Leviticus 25:10.)
>
> If we are to retain the (questionable) blessings
> of machine power (and the pollution created by
> them), the system of finance capitalism with debt
> and interest must be abolished. In building a new
> system we must bear in mind the foundation
> principle of God's Law that every person is
> entitled to a share in the fruits of the soil. It
> is not possible for every man to possess land and
> to work entirely on it, but every secondary
> industry also depends upon the land for its raw
> materials and the workers for their food from it.
> Every worker contributes to the wealth of the
> nation. Those who do not actually produce add
> their services to the common pool. The sum total
> of national constructive effort is the true basis
> of the issue of money, whether in the form of
> currency or of credit. If the total productive
> power of the nation can be computed and the
> national income distributed in fair proportion to
> every person, irrespective of the nature of the
> employment, the result would be the same as
> giving everybody a share in the land itself.
>
>
>
> Thus would the first principle of Divine Economic
> Law be obeyed economic freedom and security for
> ALL. (No deprivation and therefore no reason to
> steal or commit crime in order to survive - JAH).
> It is not God's Law that is out of step with
> mankind, but mankind that is drastically and
> criminally out of step with God and His Laws (James 4).
>
>
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