[Diggers350] Green Party cuts

[Simon Fairlie]

Why do allotments need subsidy? They are agricultural land and the  
rental value of agricultural land (fenced and with water) is normally  
about £100 per acre. What are Brighton charging per acre? Are they  
charging for hope-value? Or is the "subsidy" to keep pen-pushers in a  
job?
Simon

On 15 May 2012, at 11:18, david bangs wrote:

>
>
> Green Womble,
>
> You are quite right about the Brighton Greens and their attempt at  
> an allotment charge hike...but that is the least of the damage they  
> are doing...with a cuts budget that hurts folk who are already  
> hurting very badly from the recession and looking for a fighting  
> alternative leadership...and the Greens promise us worse cuts in  
> the next few years.
>
> You'll have to look for solutions to the left of the Green Party if  
> you want a solid response to the attack on the poor...to folk like  
> George Barratt, the Barking Labour councillor expelled from the  
> party for opposing the Labour Council cuts budget, and now leading  
> the local fightback against the cuts...
>
> Dave Bangs
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: greenwomble
> To: diggers350 at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:44 PM
> Subject: [Diggers350] first take their land then charge them  
> rent,then make them jealous of ea other.
>
> That's mostly what all the posts on here that people post here are  
> about.
>
> the little and seemingly big squabbles in bubbles happening within
> the rent system.
>
> hardly anyone gets to the crux.
>
> which is:
>
> take their land/life away from the people, then make them exceedingly
> grateful to the new owners who make them pay rent for its use.
>
> Rent = tax, protection money, interest debt, and what we call rent. (a
> note that describes interest debt as rent: a sum is loaned, a rent
> called interest is paid for a time period, at the end of which the sum
> which is 'rented' is paid back)
>
> Were we all really born to pay for our lives!
>
> Winstanley and all the recent historical natives didn't think we were.
>
> Don't forget we all were natives once.
>
> We have b earth right.
>
> money, at any level excludes.
>
> here is my reason for posting. on the rent prices of allotments:
>
> www theargus.co.uk/archive/2012/02/20/Letters+to+the+Editor+ 
> (argus_letters)/ 
> 9539240.Raising_allotment_rents_is_one_hot_potato_for_a_Green_council/
>
> Raising allotment rents is
> one hot potato for a Green
> council
> I HAVE been a Green voter in
> Brighton all my adult life, and
> have put posters in my
> window and actively supported
> the Greens for more than 20
> years.
> The Green Party is the party
> of sustainability, of low carbon
> footprints, low food miles and
> locally-grown food. These
> make up the Green manifesto,
> along with a commitment to
> encourage allotments. This is
> why I voted for Green
> councillors.
> So why is Brighton and Hove
> City Council , run by the
> Greens, about to cut the
> council subsidy for allotments,
> resulting in a 65% rent rise?
> You now have to grow £110
> worth of vegetables to break
> even. Surely allotment
> growing underlines the basic
> principles of the Green
> movement? Surely this should
> be one of the things the
> Greens should be
> encouraging?
> The more people encouraged
> to grow food locally, the
> better for us as individuals
> and the planet. Every potato I
> eat from my allotment is a
> potato not flown in from Egypt
> by big supermarkets. This
> should be encouraged. In fact,
> the council subsidy should,
> according to Green principles,
> be increased.
> In my opinion, allotments
> should be heavily subsidised
> or even free. How else are we
> going to get people to start
> growing food locally? If we
> want to feed ourselves in a
> sustainable, low-carbon way,
> and to encourage
> responsibility for food
> production, promoting
> allotments is the obvious way
> to go. Instead the council is
> cutting help for allotments.
> I am flabbergasted, shocked
> and disillusioned. When...................continues
>
>
>
> 

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