On Dormant Debt Collection Agencies

Sun Nov 18 23:29:11 GMT 2012

Can't verify this but looks interesting
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On Dormant Debt Collection Agencies
Viking Collection Services Limited - Don't be scared
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35619#p79861

Viking Collection Services Limited - Don't be scared
http://obelisk8.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/on-dormant-debt-collection-agencies.html

I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be a lot of information 
about Viking on this Forum and what is here is not 'filed' under 
Viking as a main Debt Collector Topic. Hopefully Ceylon or another 
moderator can sort that for us.

So, I thought I'd attempt to provide some more comprehensive 
information on them, with the objective of calming a few nerves of 
those who are having to deal with Viking.

An increasingly common thread with Debt Collection Companies is that 
many of them are registered as 'Dormant' companies (at Companies 
House: http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/), i.e. they are not trading 
or executing any type of business activities. At least, that's the theory!

So, if Viking really are 'Dormant' and are not trading, why have I 
received three separate letters from them in less than a month? - all 
signed by M Galloway, the Viking Collections Manager! (btw, you can 
view his Linkedin public profile here: 
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mark-galloway/16/330/911).

If you do a check on http://www.companycheck.co.uk/, you will see 
that Viking has four registered Directors (and, therefore, only four 
'employees', as the company is supposedly 'Dormant'). Mark Galloway 
is NOT one of them. But then - silly me - according to his Linkedin 
Profile (as at today), he's the Operations Manager at Santander (Geoban) !

Maybe, he's been 'seconded' to Santander from Viking (or maybe he's 
just a 'ghost writer' for the letters!) But then, he mentions that 
he's accountable and responsible for a number of Viking activities 
(here's an example: "... Responsible for controlling the 
communication of all Viking related processes and information within 
the Collections Contact Centre.") - How can a 'Dormant' company have 
processes or a Call Centre?

The four Directors are: Mr Francis Eugene Armour (6 active 
Directorships), Mr Callum Hamish Gibson (11 active Directorships), Mr 
Adam Nicholas Mussert (11 active Directorships), and finally, but by 
no means least, is Mr David Martin Green with 124 registered 
Directorships, about 61 of which are with 'Active' companies. He must 
be a busy man! He must work out!

Most, if not all, of the companies listed are part of the 'web' of 
Santander companies.

Anyway, my overall point of all this is: Remember that the tactics 
employed by these Debt Collection companies (and the major financial 
organisations behind them) are nothing more than bullying and 
intimidation, designed to scare us into submitting and handing over 
more of our money to them, to help fund the continuation of their 
fraudulent activities (and their luncheons in the City!)

In another thread that I found on moneysupermarket.com (cough!), 
there was a post from a member of staff who said:

"I work for Santander Cards on collections and I'm quite happy to let 
people in on our system. Heres advice and tips. Basically Viking is 
the last chance you get before we sell your debt on to a debt 
collection company. We pretend we've already sold it on and call 
ourselves Viking. Santander/Viking will not take you to court, send 
balifs round etc, that make us look bad. Instead it get sold on to 
another company at a discounted price, we swallow the loss and let 
them chase you for it...."

So, there you have it - Santander just try to get what they can for 
the debt when the Viking 'process' fails (as it always should if you 
follow the advice of the Get Of Debt Free web site); and another 
toothless, unwitting DCA may get involved... only to fail themselves 
and lose their 'investment' too!

So, don't be scared - stand up to them, play the game and have some 
fun. Viking are 'Dormant'. They have no teeth, so they can't bite!

Another example is Mercers Debt Collections Limited (operated by 
Barclays Bank) - see my post on them here: 
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=31238

In that post, I also suggest that as many of us as possible report 
these rogue 'dormant' Debt Collection companies to HMRC using their 
Tax Evasion Hotline. I have done this already - see the post for details.
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